Transportation => Tramways & Railways => Topic started by: cliveh on November 11, 2012, 16:46:26

Title: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: cliveh on November 11, 2012, 16:46:26
An aerial view 1929:


cliveh
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: delboy on November 12, 2012, 16:11:04
 I went here for my railway medical when I started on BR, not in 1929 I might add. delboy
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: Far away on November 14, 2012, 13:52:35
I assume that the picture shows the extension of the sidings on the north side of the works. When I used to go to school by train from Ashford to Folkestone in the late 1970s, on these 'new' sidings there stood what looked like a decorative mini steam engine, painted white. Does anyone know what it was or what became of it?
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: smiler on May 09, 2013, 09:46:47
   1847. An ideal site has been found in Kent to build steam locomotives.
   The directors of South Eastern Railway have bought 185 acres of farmland in Ashford. Here, in time they hope to create a factory building the finest standard design locomotives.
   With so many extensions to a great railway system now in place and more and more lines under construction it is intended that Ashford should grow into a railway town.
   There is considerable opposition to the plans. The Archbishop is worried about the inadequacy of church provision for the large number of men likely to be employed.
   SER reacted with the speed for which they are renowned. The Rev John Pughe has already been invited to minister to the spiritual needs of the workforce at Ashford and the company has awarded him a grant of 100.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: TowerWill on May 09, 2013, 11:32:42
If I'm reading the photo correctly then the concrete covering the ground at the Folkestone end of the site is at present being broken up and cleared. Is another housing estate going in there? There's still a bit of a siding at this end of the site which is used by P.Way rail vehicles. On Bing Maps (satellite views), this area is called Newtown Industrial Estate and I can see several sheds in the view that are not there anymore.

Yes Delboy, I went there for my railway medical too, 1972 that was, not 1929.

Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: DS239 on May 09, 2013, 19:14:24
Here are some videos of the works from Youtube for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4_bO2GKTUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4_bO2GKTUo)

This shows 2 'C' Class loco's shunting: 31592 [before being re-numbered as DS239 :) in July 1963] and 31280.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=SrVO0-0S_Ng (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=SrVO0-0S_Ng)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=2iwrRLW9i8w&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=2iwrRLW9i8w&NR=1)
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: Trikeman on May 01, 2017, 09:52:57
This is what remains as of April 2017. Very little of the long sheds seem to be in use now apart from the Balfour Beatty shed nearest the main line. The roofs have sheets missing in various places. The housing will clearly extend along the entire rear of the existing buildings - whether the old sheds will survive or have any sort of protection I don't know. At least we have the large Hitachi depot now to keep some vestige of rail industry, albeit Japanese imports, alive in Ashford
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: CommanderChuff on December 09, 2017, 18:09:55
I have been keeping a watching brief on the this site and I can report that the area north of the long carriage sheds in the centre of the image (with the red crane in the clearing) are being cleared for re-development.  We understand that the proposal is to build mixed residential housing and to reuse the old sheds as they are grade 2 listed as retail units.  The exterior walls will be retained and also the internal cranes, but there are no other features still in-situ. 
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: JohnWalker on December 10, 2017, 20:19:51
The last I read was a rock star was planning a national model railway museum built there. I've not heard anything since.
JW
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: howard on December 10, 2017, 21:18:53
I think you will find that it is a scheme proposed by a number of people and backed by others, some of whom are rock stars, rsther than being proposed by a rock star. I believe that they have problems with the proposed building area being classed as contaminated land and are looking for somewhere else in the area.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: conan on December 10, 2017, 22:08:45
The rock star is Roger Daltrey, this news item is dated 2016 so things have probably changed.

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/approval-for-model-railways-museum-93183/

The plans

http://www.aimrec.co.uk/

Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: howard on December 11, 2017, 19:50:21
Roger Daltry is still a backer, along with others. I think you will find that he was only the figurehead as it made good publicity.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: kentnavigator on January 05, 2018, 12:32:52
There has been a setback for the Ashford Model Rail Centre, the proposed site was on old Klondyke works land and after testing this was found to be contaminated. The combined cost of buying the land and subsequent clean up was too expensive so a new location is being sought.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: DS239 on February 09, 2018, 14:25:47
Wainwright Class C 0-6-0 as Departmental DS 240 [ex No. 31271] at Ashford Works on 29th May 1966.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: DaveTheTrain on February 09, 2018, 17:04:46
That looks like piston rod or valve packing they have put around the clack and clack feed pipe.  Very rough work.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: smiffy on February 09, 2018, 18:53:56
I would imagine that with the end of BR steam just a couple of years away they were just doing the bare minimum to keep things running.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: Sentinel S4 on February 09, 2018, 19:11:12
Looks like asbestos rope being used as lagging. It was used by the mile at St Augustine's Hospital. Wrapped around the pipe neatly then plastered over, DTT speak to Mr K on Saturday about it.

S4.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: DaveTheTrain on February 09, 2018, 20:34:02
Yes,  but they seem to have used it with no lap.  Pehaps times were hard.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: conan on February 09, 2018, 23:17:52
I wonder what machine she was providing steam for inside the shed?. Does anyone have any idea why the supply pipe from the steam dome has an upward U-bend in it, could it have acted as an expansion device of some sort?
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: Sentinel S4 on February 10, 2018, 08:05:17
Correct Conan, an expansion device. DTT it looks like a rush job. To be honest I've only ever seen lagged feed pipes on former USSR and other locos that work for extended periods in extreme cold conditions, in this case it looks like a fitter got over worried and just wrapped 3' of rope around it.

S4.
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: Nemo on February 10, 2018, 15:00:06
http://www.serifwebresources.com/control.php?uid=81ed695263e7127fd17af0cf6f67bf6257d2f450&post=1518274

"Another point worth noting is that C Class DS240 (31271) was at Ashford Works in departmental service as a stationary boiler. This was reported to still be in use providing steam for cleaning bogies on July 23, 1967 nearly two weeks after southern steam had finished."

See also https://maxstaffordskennel.com/2016/08/14/southern-boogie/
Title: Re: Southern Railway Works, Ashford
Post by: DS239 on February 12, 2018, 12:18:41
Yes, and so DS240 was the last Southern Region steam locomotive in BR service, albeit in a stationary role..