Military => Military Personnel => Topic started by: Riding With The Angels on November 16, 2008, 22:51:06

Title: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: Riding With The Angels on November 16, 2008, 22:51:06
As he was then, Flt Lt David Maltby took off in AJ-J on 16 May 1943 from RAF Scampton as part of 617sqn heading for the Mohne Dam.

His aircraft was the fifth over the target and it was his bomb that finally broke the dam and instigated the transmission of the codeword Nigger to indicate the mission was successful. He was the first aircraft to return and for their part in the raid Maltby was awarded the Distinguished Service Order, Sgt Vivian Nicholson (navigator) the Distinguished Flying Medal and P.O John Fort (bomb aimer) the Distinguished Flying Cross.

On 14 September 1943, still with 617sqn Maltby took off for a raid on the Dortmund Canal. The weather was appalling and a recall signal sent. As the aircraft turned over the North Sea Maltby's aircraft crashed into the sea. His was the only body recovered.

He had married in 1942 to a girl from Wickhambreaux in Kent and is buried in the churchyard of St Andrew's church there.

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Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: Riding With The Angels on January 29, 2009, 00:09:41
This is the 'tallboy' bomb which like the 'upkeep mine' was used by 617 squadron and also 9 squadron.

Incidentally (not knowing the date of the article) the tallboy became active in 1944 and weighed 12,000lb. The later 'grand slam' bomb was 22,000lb and known as the earthquake bomb. ???
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: Philio81 on January 29, 2009, 12:17:48
Heres some interesting film of a grand slam doing what it does best
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Mm-zFW_nA
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: Glen on November 22, 2009, 22:51:06
This is the 'tallboy' bomb which like the 'upkeep mine' was used by 617 squadron and also 9 squadron.

Incidentally (not knowing the date of the article) the tallboy became active in 1944 and weighed 12,000lb. The later 'grand slam' bomb was 22,000lb and known as the earthquake bomb. ???

Even despite the size of these bombs they still weren't powerful enough to penetrate some of the U-boat pens due to the thickness of the concrete used in their construction (e.g. Hamburg and Bremen). I used to work in Germany and visited a client in Bremen once who's office block was built on top of an old U-boat pen. The effort that would be required to demolish the old U-boat pen was not considered worthwhile and obviously it was considered a strong enough foundation to build on.

Glen
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: ellenkate on February 08, 2010, 12:27:15


Reading about the Maltby memorial at Wickhambreaux, and the transmission of the code word Nigger to indicate the success of the dambusters mission,  wasn't Guy Gibson's dog called Nigger? 
I believe the dog is buried, with small memorial, at RAF Scampton, I seem to remember seeing it some years ago on the airfield.

Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: Riding With The Angels on February 08, 2010, 18:04:56


Reading about the Maltby memorial at Wickhambreaux, and the transmission of the code word Nigger to indicate the success of the dambusters mission,  wasn't Guy Gibson's dog called Nigger? 
I believe the dog is buried, with small memorial, at RAF Scampton, I seem to remember seeing it some years ago on the airfield.



He was called Nigger and is buried at the base.
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: Islesy on February 08, 2010, 21:03:06
"Even despite the size of these bombs they still weren't powerful enough to penetrate some of the U-boat pens due to the thickness of the concrete used in their construction (e.g. Hamburg and Bremen). I used to work in Germany and visited a client in Bremen once who's office block was built on top of an old U-boat pen. The effort that would be required to demolish the old U-boat pen was not considered worthwhile and obviously it was considered a strong enough foundation to build on."

Glen,

The idea behind Tallboy, and the later Grand Slam was not to penetrate in that way. Barnes Wallis designed the bombs to deliver a seismic explosion - that is to penetrate the ground to a great depth and deliver a massive seismic shock wave like an earthquake - hence the name 'earthquake bomb'.

The best example of the correct use of the bomb was against the Bielefield Viaduct, when over 100m of the viaduct collapsed into the subterranean crater caused by the Grand Slam/Tallboy combination. The bombs were fitted with delayed action fuses to prevent an explosion before they had penetrated the ground fully.

"It was an extraordinary weapon, an apparent contradiction in terms, since it had at one and the same time the explosive force of a large high-capacity blast bomb and the penetrating power of an armour-piercing bomb. On the ground it was capable of displacing a million cubic feet (29,000 m?) of earth and made a crater which it would have taken 5,000 tons of earth to fill. It was ballistically perfect and in consequence had a very high terminal velocity, variously estimated at 3,600 and 3,700 feet (1,100 m) per second (1,100-1,130 m/s or about 2,500 mph / 4,000 km/h), which was, of course, a good deal faster than sound so that, as with the V-2 rocket, the noise of its fall would be heard after that of the explosion."
W. J. Lawrence
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: Jason on February 08, 2010, 22:00:50
There's a full description of these bombs at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunkerbuster

Apparently it isn't just the seismic effect that causes the destruction of the target, it's the undermining of the target's foundations.
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: David643 on April 18, 2010, 22:16:53
David Maltby was one of the pilots, from 617 Sqd, who flew a pair of Lancasters over Maidstone in the Summer of 1943 when Guy Gibson visited the town to support the "Wings Week".

The Lancasters' flew on two engines set in reverse - why this was I have yet to discover
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: delboy on April 19, 2010, 13:36:25
     RE Post below.  My apologies, these were sent to me as they are via another forum about 18 months ago when I was researching Sdn Ldr Maltby after taking the grave picture for the WGPP. I have deleted them from here as there is a copyright problem that I was not aware of. Once again sorry, delboy
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: CharlesF on April 26, 2010, 13:28:40
I am the nephew of David Maltby, and have visited Wickhambreaux a number of times recently. Local people will be aware that there is a ceremony at his graveside on 14 September every year, organised by the East Kent Aircrew Association and supported by the family, some of whom still live locally.

I am also the author of a book about David and his crew, called Breaking The Dams (pen and Sword, 2008) and the author and webmaster of a companion website http://www.breakingthedams.com

I have to say that I am a little disappointed that a recent poster -- delboy --  has seen fit to take some photos from my website and post them on this forum without attribution. Not only that, on one -- a picture of the crew of Maltby?s aircraft -- he has cropped off the name of the copyright owner! In this case, I am happy to allow the picture to be reproduced if the copyright line is restored and an acknowledgement placed in the text.

The copyright line should read " ? Grace Blackburn, courtesy www.breakingthedams.com "

The others, pictures of the bombsight and accompanying letter, are not my copyright. If you want to reproduce these pictures then you need to contact the copyright owner at http://www.astrocollections.com

I would be grateful if you could rectify this as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: CharlesF on April 28, 2010, 15:20:25
Delboy

thanks for apology and quick action. As I said, I don't have a problem with you using the Grace Blackburn pic, providing the copyright info is included. Mrs Blackburn is the sister of Sgt Harold Simmonds, rear gunner in AJ-J, and has given me permission to use the shot. It's the Astrocollection pics I was more concerned about.
If the moderators are OK about this, maybe the best thing is just to give a link to my website where all the pics can be seen
http://www.breakingthedams.com

I also write and post regularly on the Dambusters blog: http://dambustersblog.com

Charles
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: JohnWalker on January 24, 2018, 14:03:17
Does anyone know the given name and maiden name of David Maltby's wife from Wickhambreaux?  Its only a small hamlet and many of my ancestors came from there.  Just might be a connection.

JW
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: grandarog on January 24, 2018, 15:13:43
David Maltby married Georgina (Nina) Goodson  in 1942.
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: grandarog on January 24, 2018, 17:29:43
CWGC Details here :- https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fcwgc%2frollofhonour%2f001439928

Incidently Billion Graves website have his grave listed incorrectly at Preston ,Faversham.
https://billiongraves.com/grave/David-JH-Maltby/25223236

Find a Grave are correct with Wickhambreaux:-
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49432125/david-john_hatfeild-maltby
Title: Re: Dambuster Pilot buried in Kent
Post by: JohnWalker on January 24, 2018, 19:03:07
thanks for all the info Grandarog.  I don't appear to have any Goodson family connections.  I'm guessing Georgina was from a 'higher' class.  All my ancestors were lowly agricultural workers who might even have worked for the Goodson family...

JW