Leisure => Amusements, Fairgrounds & Carnivals => Topic started by: Jayzi. on August 12, 2009, 01:25:18

Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Jayzi. on August 12, 2009, 01:25:18
Hi gang.

A you-tube link to the 'only fools and horses' episode where the cast visit Margate beach and dreamland/bemboms?

A great soundtrack to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOgCJqMoPNE

Jayzi.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: birchingtonboy on August 30, 2009, 21:07:15
Hello everyone this is my first post so here goes,growing up in Birchington in the fifties and sixties I have happy memories of Dreamland.Apart from the theme park there the cinema and the ballroom,the cinema was where you went to see the latest blockbuster ,going in before the film was finished and sitting there waiting for it to start again.The ballroom famous forits saturday "dance" never went could not dance, how many future partners met there I wonder ?.And the amusement park itself ,fireworks every thursday during the season ,the roller skating rink the mniature railway that ran around the back through the gardens and finally seeing the same faces who had the concessions ,running the side stalls .I particularly remember one lady from the fishing duck stall, she was still doing it when I used to take my daughter there. Benbohms put a stop to all that and ruined it.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Riding With The Angels on August 30, 2009, 22:55:13
Hello everyone this is my first post so here goes,growing up in Birchington in the fifties and sixties I have happy memories of Dreamland.Apart from the theme park there the cinema and the ballroom,the cinema was where you went to see the latest blockbuster ,going in before the film was finished and sitting there waiting for it to start again.The ballroom famous forits saturday "dance" never went could not dance, how many future partners met there I wonder ?.And the amusement park itself ,fireworks every thursday during the season ,the roller skating rink the mniature railway that ran around the back through the gardens and finally seeing the same faces who had the concessions ,running the side stalls .I particularly remember one lady from the fishing duck stall, she was still doing it when I used to take my daughter there. Benbohms put a stop to all that and ruined it.

My mother worked in the bar at the ballroom and met my dad there.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: birchingtonboy on September 01, 2009, 07:15:34
Good morning evryone  the origin of Dreamland was Lord gerge Sangers Palace of varities bt the sea some time in the late nineteenth or early twentieth century."Lord George Sanger"came from a circus family and the lord bit was added as an after thought .Sadly he was murdered by his manservant who claimed the devil made him do it and the poor man ended his days in an assylum.George sanger is buried in Margate cemetary under a life size marble statue of a horse .   
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Islesy on September 01, 2009, 10:23:29
Now, my memory is a bit hazy, but I'm sure I remember a thread on a now deceased exploring forum that concerned another statue of a horse. I'm sure it was something to do with Sanger, and it concerned the statue being moved to the basement of what is now Argos in Ramsgate. Anybody care to comment?
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on September 01, 2009, 12:03:17
 I was very fortunate living in Ramsgate then Broadstairs from late 1940s to 1961, and went to Dreamland at any opportunity, my brother-in-laws ( they were much older than me ) Dad was chief electrician there during that time so I got a lot of freebies, the old pic of it taken in the 50s is just how I remember it , sometimes I was the only person there apart from the workers and had rides on the Scenic railway with just the driver, and when the Midget Family were one of the attractions  used to go and play with the children, sad day when it all changed, even used to take our kids there in the 70s and 80s until Benboms took it over and it went downhill,
hubby cracked his ribs on the Looping Star ( or whatever it was called !!) cos we wouldn't go on with him LOL, the poster of the Magic Garden was great too it was marvellous seeing that in the evenings with all the lights on, oh and Ramsgate with all the lights there too.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: rdfb2 on September 01, 2009, 13:25:18
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/rdfb2/MargDrmLnd6-1.jpg)

heres one for riding with the angels, the old ball room

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/rdfb2/01500d40.jpg)




where the picture house stands at the moment.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Riding With The Angels on September 01, 2009, 21:48:46
I think as you entered from the seafront it was on one side or the other where the small stands used to be before getting into the fairgound proper. Before my time so don't rightly know. Thanks for pic :-)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: birchingtonboy on September 03, 2009, 06:54:48
Good morning yes you are absolutely right there were a nuber of small booths one sold jokes novelties funny hats that sort of thing ,my favourite stall.Plus one that sold fruit.you went underneath the ballroom ,on the right hand side was the Jolley rodger bar and as you came further in there was a candy floss stall.And then you went underneath the roller caster to enter Dreamland proper.You are going to be sorry you started me off on this one ,I have a memory like an Excocet once you start it off it difficult to stop or get out of its way!.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Juanita on September 08, 2009, 00:20:48
I remember the zoo. It was situated behind the scenic railway and you could go on a little train to see the animals. Next to dreamland there used to be an "ice rink" but the "ice" was made of plastic! I also remember in dreamland there was a house which looked like it was turning upside down and a double ferris wheel
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on September 08, 2009, 17:36:02
That upside down house now seems to be at Dymchurch, or it's one very like it, and down the covered way into Dreamland there was a roller skating rink on the left ( not the ice one outside ) and one of those stalls on the right was a Flea Circus at one time, how did they do that ?? fleas's pulling a little cart I seem to remember+ other stuff. The little train went right through the Magic Garden.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Stewie on September 10, 2009, 22:40:55
I seem to recall that as you entered the passage way from the beach there used to be an old Traction Engine with little 'Gnome' like creatures popping out of it at various places or maybe it was a tree?
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: afsrochester on September 11, 2009, 12:51:57
Remember rinding on the minature steam railway in the late'50's.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: rdfb2 on September 11, 2009, 13:52:39
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/rdfb2/3291870855_9c29a335ec.jpg)

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/rdfb2/DreamlandRailway1972b.jpg)


(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/rdfb2/dreamland.jpg)


(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/rdfb2/11jul20025.jpg)

dont remember dreamland like this as i didnt start going thier till about 1965.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on September 11, 2009, 19:35:43
OMG, I remember it like that Not the last one as I'm not THAT old and the 'upside down house' is in the background of the 70s pic, and you can just see the Helter Skelter in it too, what a great place it was.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: birchingtonboy on September 12, 2009, 08:06:35
The above mentioned train is alive and well at brooklands leisure park Lancing I go past it every day.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: birchingtonboy on October 02, 2009, 07:28:36
Good morning everyone  George Sanger is buried in Margate cemetrey under the statute, life size,of a horse .As indeed are the members of the "Friend of all Nations" the life boat crew who lost thier lives in the nayand rock disaster.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Islesy on October 02, 2009, 12:46:28
Now, my memory is a bit hazy, but I'm sure I remember a thread on a now deceased exploring forum that concerned another statue of a horse. I'm sure it was something to do with Sanger, and it concerned the statue being moved to the basement of what is now Argos in Ramsgate. Anybody care to comment?

I remember that thread.
This is the Hotel/Theatre that George Sanger built and owned and the horse you see on top is the one thats apparently in the basement under Argos
>It was part demolished in the 1950s but the part that still stands is quite a sight i must admit

Thanks for that Trench - I am now satisfied I wasn't under the influence in recalling that thread! I guess the next step is to pop into Argos and find out if they have a basement!! That'll be an interesting exercise in social interaction!!

At least it gives me something to go on now - time to find out if this is myth or fact!
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: BenG on October 08, 2009, 21:11:14
(http://www.kentexploration.co.uk/images/stories/oldphotos/Margate/MargDrmLnd-1.jpg)

(http://www.kentexploration.co.uk/images/stories/oldphotos/Margate/MargDrmLnd2-1.jpg)

(http://www.kentexploration.co.uk/images/stories/oldphotos/Margate/MargDrmLnd3-1.jpg)

(http://www.kentexploration.co.uk/images/stories/oldphotos/Margate/MargDrmLnd5-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: LenP on October 08, 2009, 22:17:10
These are both pre First War, postdated 1912 I seem to remember.

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss251/Lens35/1050651.jpg)

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss251/Lens35/7651.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Riding With The Angels on October 09, 2009, 20:46:51
Whats the ruin in the old pics? or is it a folly?
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: rdfb2 on November 04, 2009, 15:13:53
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/rdfb2/dreamlandcinema.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: colin haggart on November 06, 2009, 22:35:32
Whilst walking around Margate today I came across this, on the side wall of dreamland, at first I walked right past it.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate23.jpg)

The writing on here must be quite old, put on here before the tower block or car park was built.   Perhaps the writing was clearer in the times on the old photos.

Great Ballroom it says.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate29.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate28.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate27.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate26.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate32.jpg)

You can make out the word cinema on here.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate31.jpg)

On this last one, the large letters spell Dreamland.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/Margate30.jpg)


Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Riding With The Angels on November 06, 2009, 23:41:30
Interesting - will see what my mother makes of these as she used to work in the bar there.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: stewyrey on March 14, 2010, 14:20:31
Found this 1920s/30s film, intresting rides, no pirate ship though.
Iv'e some fond memeries of my visits in the 80s, sadly no pics, as
is the rest of my life in kent.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=49820 (http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=49820)

  Stewyrey.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on March 14, 2010, 17:54:44
That was great seeing Dreamland then, I loved the Caterpillar. I have a really good book about Dreamland, which is the 90th Anni edition, published last Oct, it has everything in it, right from when it opened as  The Hall by the Sea, in 1867 , up to the bitter end. The pics bring back all the memories you could want, for me from the 1950s until my last visit there about 1989. Hubby cracked his ribs on the 1st day of our holiday on the Looping Star, so we didn't go back again. The book is called Dreamland Remembered , written by Nick Evans.
Bygone Publishing. ISBN 978-0-9545252-3-1. Well worth getting if you can, it was one of my best christma
s pressies.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: unfairytale on March 14, 2010, 20:56:30
I only ever went there once, sometime in the early eighties. The Looping Star had just opened and I went on it six times in a row. The caterpillar was better.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on March 15, 2010, 22:20:48
Dreamland Rides.

Of course The Scenic Railway.    1920 until 2008 ( under resurrection ? )
The Caterpillar 1922 , the longest surviving ride after the Scenic , until the late 80s.
The River Caves 1924 until demolition in 1984.
The Whip, 1920.
The Galloping Horses 1946 until 2003.
Skywheel, 1953 until 1977.
The Rock and Roll house , 1958. or the house of fun as it's been called.

More perhaps as I go through the book about them.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: doug on March 16, 2010, 23:23:53
The set of pictures from Colin, picture 16 shows a row of cars in the car park, the blue clad building  behind the cars, was at one stage the Garden cafe in the summer and the roller skateing ring in the winter. This building was an aircraft hangar, from the first  world war. Some reports say from the RNAS station at Westgate this is incorrect, the Westgate building was just infront of this building and to the right, and part of the works and bricks dept at Dreamland.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on March 17, 2010, 12:11:44
Two airship hangars played an important part of Dreamlands history. Measuring 200ft long, they had originally been ordered by the US Coastguard Srevice during WW1 , but with the end of hostilities in 1918 they had become surplus to requirements. After some negotiation they arrived in Margate in kit form for assembly. One housed an arcade of an increasing number of stalls and sideshows (the one that burned down in 1930)  the other one provided the shell of what  became the Garden Cafe.
This was capable of seating 1,200 people, easily the largest of 7 and later 8 restaurants round the park.
Mass catering was an important part of Dreamlands business for more than 30 years,all told the restaurants could seat 3,500 people, They  had their own bakery  producing 2,500 fancy cakes and 2,000 loaves a day during the high season, and the Ice Cream plant turned out 80 gallons a day.

Hot lunches started at 3/6d (18p) a head and included soup, with a choice of roast beef and yorkshire pudding or roast mutton with vegetables, dessert choices were fruit tart and custard sauce or jelly. In 1931 this could be washed down with a bottle of White wine from 4/6d (23p) or a bottle of beer, Guinness, pale ale or milk stout, at sevenpence halfpenny (4p) A bottle of Champagne was priced at 18 shillings (90p)

A party of 741 people from a brewery in Southwark, SE London, were among the many satisfied customers. The grateful secretary wrote "I enclose the Company's cheque for 276-1s and 4d in settlement of your account for meals supplied, the men (where were the women?) thoroughly enjoyed their outing"

Those were the days !
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Riding With The Angels on April 30, 2010, 23:03:45
Whats the ruin in the old pics? or is it a folly?

Think I have just answered my own question with one of the pics on this local news article from 2008

http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/news/Zoo-knows/article-300238-detail/article.html (http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/news/Zoo-knows/article-300238-detail/article.html)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on May 01, 2010, 13:45:04
The Abbey ruins ( if that's what you mean ) WAS just a folly built by George Sanger. The  animal cages also built in Sangers time were uncovered around 1975 when a 'new' zoo went there, and were Grade two listed in 2009 as they are the only ones left of their kind now. If you can get hold of the book Dreamland Remembered ( ISBN 978-0-9545252-3-1 ) it's well worth it, it's the 90th anniversary book, which tells everything from start to finish. Great pics including the folly and the zoo and from when it started as The Hall By The Sea in 1876 right up to the sad Scenic Railway fire.
In another thread on here ? there's a pic of the Sanger graves in Margate cemetery, the large memorial with the Mazeppa circus horse on top, was actually for John Sanger ( Georges brother )
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: colin haggart on May 04, 2010, 20:23:45
Three of my postcards to remind you of some of the rides.

I have another one with the Zeppilens on it.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/My%20variuos%20photos/Dreamland.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/My%20variuos%20photos/Dreamland002.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/My%20variuos%20photos/Dreamland001.jpg)

Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Chezzz on May 18, 2010, 14:23:49
Ahhh Dreamland one of my favourite day trip destinations of my childhood. We always had the same regime, beach first (which always seemed to last for hours) then on to dreamland :). My earliest memory is probably that of the catapillar, a strange ride which half way round a cover would come over the top of you and i think was suppose to be a bit scary, although in my day the cover was a bit moth eaten and used to let rays of sunlight through lol. I used to love the tubs aswell a ride which involved ppl climbing precariously into a small round tub on water which would then flow around inside a building showing off a sort of light n puppet show
thing , very weird but pretty, probably more of a girly ride that 1 lol. Another was the good old sphinx, an inside dark maze on 2 floors.

Ive read a few ppl enquiring about the zoo which although was gone by my days there were still the remains of some cages in the walls off to the right as you entered the park, i believe it was a garden too at some point. i do have a picture of the cages ill have to dig out at some point. In the mean time heres a few pics i found in my albums.

Love those postcard pics btw colin they really do take me back :)

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s150/buffher/Historic/bemboms.jpg)

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s150/buffher/Historic/bemboms001.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Megapack162 on May 20, 2010, 12:14:12
My favourite ride at Dreamland (before it became BenBon brothers) was the Rotor, you queued up inside a drum shaped wooden building and all you could hear was a sound that was very close to that of a steam engine accelerating out of a station.

Eventually you reached a viewing gallery where you saw the source of the noise below you, a rotating drum with a curved access door. The drum spun faster and faster and then the floor fell away beneath you, leaving you stuck to the wall like a fly stuck in wet paint. People used to turn upside down or even sideways so that they appeared to be flying like superman.

I was pretty nervous the first couple of times I visited and by the time I'd got braver, BenBons had bought Dreamland, closed some of the older rides and replaced them with modern thrills like the Looping Star, Mary Rose and Viking Ship.

My nearly 9 year old would have loved the Rotor, he thinks rides like the Meteor (similar but a cage that spins and then tips up to almost 80 degrees) and other inversion rides are excellent - he has no fear at all.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: colin haggart on June 13, 2010, 21:35:31
Our friend lent me these photos of his taken in Dreamland. The B & W ones are he thinks from the 1960s, not shure of the decade of the colour photo.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/John005.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/John004.jpg)

I've zoomed in on this one, this looks like maybe a fire hose reel.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/John006.jpg)

Dreamland's boatilng lake.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/John001.jpg)

>I've zoomed in on the photo to show you this, the boats worked like the Dogem cars, a pole picking up electricity and making the boats work.

I some how do not think it would be have that today.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/John002.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: cheryl on October 07, 2010, 17:17:19
Came to Margate in 1970 and Dreamland was fantastic. The Caterpillar, River Caves, Sphinx, Helter Skelter, Scenic Railway, Dodgems, Big Wheel, Wurlitzer etc. I can remember it all well. They used to hold a market in the car park area and on firework night we would often sit on the stairs to watch. My Saturday and holiday job was working in a bed and breakfast and also flatlets owned by Mrs King. Her buildings directly overlooked Dreamland which also made for great viewing on firework night. Margate used to get so busy at holiday times that there was no room to walk on the pavement and I often had to walk in the roadway. Dreamland, Sundeck, Pier ......
...Happy times  :)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Bryn Clinch on October 16, 2010, 14:20:56
Dreamland also had a cinema which housed a Noterman cinema organ. If the cinema is still there, does anyone know if the organ is still in-situ?. So many of these fine instruments have been scrapped or broken up, but many have been `saved` by enthusiasts. I remember hearing this organ on the BBC many years ago.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Barrowboy on October 16, 2010, 17:02:18
Bryn (and other interested forum followers) I think I can update you on the Dreamland organ. The original Noterman organ was installed in the Hall by the Sea. When the Illes family decided to build the new cinema complex in 1934 the John Compton organ company was asked to build a new organ but to accommodate the Noterman ranks with new Compton ranks - and a mechanical solo cello. In the early 1970's the Medway Theatre Organ Trust (of which I was a member) managed to get the organ in playable condition and regular concerts were held. One particular organist, William Davis, always included several classical items on his programme. For these quieter pieces the Noterman pipework was skillfully used. After many years the Margate Theatre Organ Trust took over and continued holding regular concerts until approx 2000. The pipework is housed in roof chambers (I remember well the iron ladder that had to be climbed to reach them). I understand that all is intact. The 4 manual console, which controlled the 19 ranks, is still in situ under the stage but is showing signs of meldew due to the surrounding damp stagnant air. The initial phase of the Dreamland renovation includes some preservation of the organ.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Bryn Clinch on October 16, 2010, 17:55:35
Thanks for the information Barrowboy. It`s great to hear that the organ is intact. I had no idea that it was that big, 4 manuals,19 ranks - I`d love to have a `toot` on it!
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Barrowboy on October 17, 2010, 16:36:09
Bryn, I'm a keen (but not too skilled) amateur home organist. About 20 years ago I, and a work colleague (who was also a keen home organist), were sent on a training course at Rank Hilger, then at Westwood, Margate. The course finished early on the Friday so I took my colleague to Dreamland to show him the organ. It was magic to see his beaming face as he took to the console for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: man-of-kent on December 12, 2010, 21:33:08
I have four stereo cassette recordings of Dreamland organ recitals I made back in the Medway Theatre Organ Trust days. Two featured David Ivory, one with John Mann and the other with William Davis.

Derek Brice
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: seb on December 13, 2010, 15:41:13
Thanks for the memories  :)
The thing I remember most is the smell.   You walked down the sloping entrance and the smell of the miniture train was hanging in the air.   I had to do the laughing sailor first.  The after that every ride was equal.   Terrific place for children, then the teenage years and courting and something of the wrinklies as well.
I was young when I went to see the new release of Alice in Wonderland at the cinema.
As a Londoner my time was between Dreamland Margate and the Kersal at Southend.   I preferred Dreamland.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: kyn on March 11, 2011, 22:42:59
The Abbey ruins ( if that's what you mean ) WAS just a folly built by George Sanger. The  animal cages also built in Sangers time were uncovered around 1975 when a 'new' zoo went there, and were Grade two listed in 2009 as they are the only ones left of their kind now.
There's the Sanger graves in Margate cemetery, the large memorial with the Mazeppa circus horse on top, was actually for John Sanger ( Georges brother )

A pic of the horses head
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/batgirlphotos/KHF/IMG_4708Medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Ajemp on March 14, 2011, 12:47:48
 Dreamland
   My memories  are fish n' chips, candy floss, ice cream, lots  of rides, and a little man who would guess your weight , if he got it right  within  a  few pounds he kept your money , but if he was wrong he paid you ! he would "feel" a mans body but, when a lady was checked it was "no touching" , needless to say  he made a good living
                                    ajemp.........
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: AnDy on March 15, 2011, 14:22:15
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=2538

A short clip of the 'Fun Palace' Margate, Kent.

'Psychedelic Fun Palace at Margate's Dreamland funfair. This is the creation of Keith Albarn (Damon's father we believe) and is really funky.'

Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: joshua92 on August 18, 2011, 17:20:52
Hi anyone remember, the Flea Circus at Dreamland ? I used to live in Birchington in the late 50's and 60's. I was at Spurgeons Homes, a childrens home and used to come to Dreamland once a month on Sunday, i loved the flea circus, nobody believes it existed !
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on August 18, 2011, 18:51:58
Oh yes, I remember it    :) it was down on the right hand side as you went through the 'tunnel' seafront end, or was when I lived in Broadstairs
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Bryn Clinch on August 19, 2011, 09:15:37
Hi anyone remember, the Flea Circus at Dreamland ? I used to live in Birchington in the late 50's and 60's. I was at Spurgeons Homes, a childrens home and used to come to Dreamland once a month on Sunday, i loved the flea circus, nobody believes it existed !
Welcome, joshua92, I`m sure that you`ll be able to tell us about life at Spurgeon`s. Although the Birchington Home was inter-denominational, I`m sure the founder, Charles Spurgeon, a Strict (Particular) Baptist Minister would surely have frowned upon visits to Dreamland on Sundays. How did you manage it? Baptists were very strict in the 50s and 60s. I know of at least two `deacons` of the Baptist Church of the 50s who would have shaken their heads and muttering "sinful".
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: srpiccallilli on August 25, 2011, 21:15:27
Reading through this thread has been a jolt back to the past - brought back so many memories. Whoever mentioned the Bali-Hai, do you remember what it what called before then? Nobody has mentioned the Rendez-vous Club on Sunday evenings at the ballroom. That was a must.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on August 25, 2011, 23:57:08
Don't forget the Sphynx - pitch black corridors and rooms inside - excellent courting venue.......

And the blast of compressed air that blew the girls skirts up as they ducked through the low doorway on the front of the Sphynx - always a crowd puller that one.

Happy days ....
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: man-of-kent on November 23, 2011, 22:20:46
Just a little Dreamland related trivia.  The roundabout that was there for a few years originally bellonged to the Emerson family in Cumbria. It was eventually purchased and sold on by Preston Services of Preston near Wingham. It now resides in Tazmania. When in the hands of the Emersons it had a 65 key Gavioli at the centre, almost identical to the one travelling Kent owned by John Woolls-Forrest of Charing. The Emerson organ is now owned by Herbert Silcocks of Southport.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: DMC on January 04, 2012, 19:39:46
Whilst looking for something else I came across this web page

http://www.joylandbooks.com/scenicrailway/images/galleries.htm

Some cracking pictures there Of Dreamland that maybe of interest.
Dezz  :)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: AnDy on January 18, 2012, 15:35:42
Dreamland in the 50's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLlKR1x1oWY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwEMnLrVHkA&feature=related
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: smiler on January 19, 2012, 07:52:20
Very good AnDy even see the pub at the beginning where us kids would stand outside with a Vimto an a packet of crisps/cheeselets. :)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Sentinel S4 on January 19, 2012, 08:53:33
The last memory I have of a visit to Dreamland (never Bem Boms) was of three of us at the end of the season. This would have been around late September 1983. We had 'done' everything other than the Ferris Wheel and were in need of something quiet to calm our selves down, not feeling too well, so we jumped on the Wheel for a ride. As it started one of my mates discovered that the cars could be rotated. This was fine until we reached the top where the other two started to spin the car faster and faster. At this point I mentioned that the car could be on a tfine thread and they could be unscrewing us and it was a long way down. With that the car started to spin even faster in the opposite direction, ostensibly 'doing it up'. Never one to pass up a 'wind up' situation I calmly pointed out that it could be a left handed thread........ The car stopped spinning and two sheepish looking 18year old Bikers hung on to the central pole until we got back down and out, as for me I just kept up with "It don't feel too good....." "A bit wobbly......." "Wonder how much thread is left......." routine all the way. That was the last time I visited the park when it was fully (ish) working.

Sentinel S4.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Bryn Clinch on January 19, 2012, 09:45:29
When was the `Big Wheel` replaced by the `Double Big Wheel`? I remember taking a lad with cerebal palsy on it. Everything was OK until the`boats` began to rock violently every time the brake was applied, but at one stage, when our wheel reached its highest point, the brake was applied so violently we were nearly tipped out. The little lad thought it was hilarious and had tears of laughter running down his cheeks but I was petrified and from that day have a terrible fear of heights. I watched the operator after this terrifying experience and it was quite obvious that he was taking great pleasure in scaring the daylights out of everybody by violently slamming on the brake. This was definitely pre-1960.
I took this same lad on the Rotor, the large rotating drum where everyone `stuck` to the walls when it spun. Everyone was `glued` to the wall except this lad who, due to his disability, could not keep still and consequently slowly slipped to the bottom. He thought that this was hilarious. His condition slowly improved over the years and, against the odds, found employment as a skilled labourer in Chatham Dockyard but never worked again when the Yard closed. A great lad who sadly died prematurely. Perhaps some Forum members who worked in the Yard may remember him - Michael (Mick).
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: gibblyweeds on February 03, 2012, 16:05:37
I remember two things about Dreamland in the 50's  One was the man with the scales as you went down the slope into the park. He guessed your weight & if he was so many pounds out you got your money back. The other was a room with a "Lady with no Head". Sure enough there were all these bubbling tubes where her head should be!!
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: smiler on February 20, 2012, 11:55:18
December 1938 John Henry Iles,the man who bought Dreamland to Margate and achieved more than any other person in developing the area as one of Britain's more popular tourist resorts, has been struck by financial tragedy.
The entrepreneur staked his entire fortune on the film industry believing British films could equal, perhaps beat, anything offered by its competitors.
The industry however, has gone into decline and with the Munich crisis and events in Europe dominating everything, Mr Iles' venture has ended in bankruptcy.
He has now left his Margate interests to his son and resigned all his directorships.
He fell in love with the town in 1915 and by 1919 had purchased Lord George Sanger's famous Hall-by-the-Sea for 40,000. Later he acquired the Clifton Baths Estate and spent half-a-million pounds developing the project now known as Dreamland.               Kent a chronicle of the times by Bob Ogley
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: rdfb2 on April 09, 2012, 12:21:48
i went on the double big wheel back in about 1972 at the age 13 , and it scared me so much i was nearly crying and beging my mate to stop rocking it and like you say it felt like the whole carriage was gone go upside down, scared me for life and would never go on anything since that day, wish i had never gone on it.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on April 16, 2012, 21:32:13
The Stowaway ride was heavily hyped and was hoped to be the saviours of Dreamland as it was then.  In reality it didn't live up to expectations.  They tried various publicity stunts along the line of it being haunted during the construction which ensured media coverage - but sadly - it wasn't enough.  I'm sure other will have more to add.
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: smiler on July 04, 2012, 06:32:15
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af310/smiler2/Images%20for%20Kent%20forum/scan0005-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: trainman on November 10, 2012, 19:46:04
 Dreamland also had a miniature steam railway about 1955 or about, wonder where that went?
  trainman
Title: Re: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on November 11, 2012, 00:28:12
Dreamland also had a miniature steam railway about 1955  or abouts, wonder where that went
  trainman

I loved that little railway.  It went from a small station at one end of the park through the garden and the zoo.  I think there were two steam locos and possibly a diesel.  There are a few good photos on the Dreamland site.
JW
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on May 06, 2014, 10:07:42
More updates on the Dreamland project...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-27210062 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-27210062)

JW
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on May 06, 2014, 11:44:13
Thanks for the link JW   :)
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on June 10, 2014, 22:38:26
Eve at the Fair. Filmed at Margate (1930) Some nice shots of the roller coaster but cuts out too soon.
British Pathe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR6IA8G0Q78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR6IA8G0Q78)

The Dreamland Trust website.
http://www.dreamlandmargate.com (http://www.dreamlandmargate.com)
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Troyboy on July 12, 2014, 22:05:22
Hi to all, I went to Margate on 4-7-2014 with my wife. On the Front there is a Dreamland Experience near the entrance of Dreamland. The people inside are great to talk to as they are involved with the charity that is trying to regenerate the site. Also inside there is a cinematic display and some other exhibits, such as two Gallopers from Carousel, also some of the original Pinball Machines which you may play with purchased tokens. GREAT FUN and memories.
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: conan on April 13, 2015, 00:06:25
take a ride on the scenic railway with this lovely bit of film shot in 2003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nLL3ZS7Tlc
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Stewie on April 13, 2015, 08:27:27
Thanks for that Conan, I sat her with my hands in the air!

 :)
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: Lyn L on April 13, 2015, 18:12:14
The last time I went on the Scenic I kept my eyes closed ALL the way round, this time I saw it all in it's glory  :) Thanks conan.
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on April 14, 2015, 00:22:07
Drove round the the back of Dreamland today.  The rebuilt Scenic Railway or Roller Coaster as I call it is stunning.  It's looks like a complete rebuild and the tracks are now being laid.  Renovated vintage rides are in store ready to be assembled for the opening on June 19th.  The park won`t be complete this year but it's a great start.  I will be on that Roller Coaster some time this year.  You won't get me on those modern white knuckle rides but this one is ok.

JW
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: conan on April 23, 2015, 13:31:51
The reopening for the park has been set for Friday the 19th of June.There`s more here including some rebuilding timelapse stuff.

http://www.dreamland.co.uk/
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: conan on December 20, 2015, 22:38:20
A ride on the new scenic railway.Must admit I found myself leaning into the bends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvRJ0EvgExk

It does look smart compared with the rather run down old one(see post of 12 april)









Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on December 20, 2015, 23:29:19
Warning!

I'm not sure at what point I thought it would be fun to ride this centrifuge on a visit earlier in the year.  Starts about 1:20.

I'm just coming up for 70 and it made me feel ill for a couple of days.  I felt all my intestines heading toward my back and I could hardly expand my chest to breathe.  So all you oldies - don't be tempted no matter how much your grandchildren beg you to join them and tell how brilliant it is.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13n9fvDyjZw&spfreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13n9fvDyjZw&spfreload=10)
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on April 21, 2016, 12:12:42
Can anyone answer this topic which came up in conversation recently?

Dreamland was requisitioned by the Government during the second world war.  What did they use it for?
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: conan on April 21, 2016, 13:30:56
Here you go JohnWalker, scroll this link down to 1940 and all will be revealed

https://www.dreamland.co.uk/timeline
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on April 21, 2016, 14:54:08
Excellent conan - thank you. 
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: conan on April 21, 2016, 18:32:02
No problem JohnWalker.
 Reading through the link it states that it was used as an interrogation centre to root out spies and armers. Does anyone have any idea what an armer was?
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: JohnWalker on April 21, 2016, 22:00:54
Best I can find is this....

armer  (ˈɑːmə)
Definitions
noun
a person who arms
Title: Re: Dreamland, Margate
Post by: conan on April 22, 2016, 00:10:08
So possibly someone who was trying to get weapons or explosives into England to supply the (what we now know to be a virtually non-existent) 5th column.