Transportation => Highways => Topic started by: kyn on February 11, 2014, 11:36:17

Title: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: kyn on February 11, 2014, 11:36:17
Chatham.  26th October, 1753

Honourable sirs,

The Dock Lane leading from the Hill House to the Yard Gate, is become very ruinous and almost impossible for carriages, in their intercourse between Chatham, and Brompton, and as the said Road belongs to his Majesty, and has heretofore been amended and kept in repair at the Crowns expense, we humbly desire you will be pleased to cause some repair, to be done to it immediately for the benefit of the inhabitants who must otherwise greatly suffer for want thereof, which will always be thankfully acknowledged by

Honourable Sirs,
Your obedient humble Servants

James Best
William Parry
G. Hinde
** Purcell
William Witheridge
Joseph Longley
Henry Curtis
John Hack
Francis Brett
R. Lock
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: Wardy on February 14, 2014, 18:46:30
So pot holes aren't a new thing then!
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: ChrisExiledFromStrood on February 15, 2014, 18:27:54
Or, translating into present-day English,

Oi,
We're fed up with the state of Dock Road - get it fixed pronto!
Cheers
James Best
etc
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: smiffy on November 21, 2017, 19:53:47
Anyone have any ideas about this bricked-up doorway? It's about half way down Dock Road.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: Roseann on November 22, 2017, 07:44:46
They may be the toilets I remember along Dock road.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: Lyn L on November 22, 2017, 08:12:01
The toilets were a lot nearer the top of Dock Road, almost by the roundabout now (can be seen on GE ) . Have no idea what the bricked up doorway was though .
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: smiffy on November 22, 2017, 22:53:27
A wider view.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: Signals99 on November 27, 2017, 03:53:01
Any chance of removing a brick or two,just to see if it is an entrance, should not be too difficult to get permission. What a project for Kyn as the lady loves digging in odd places (Fort Borstal). I'm certain some of the guys who worked there would be only to willing to help?
Just think about it, the forums own "time team".
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: smiffy on November 27, 2017, 16:26:44
If this was a tunnel entrance at one time, it would have gone off in the general direction of the Brompton Barracks parade ground.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: Lutonman on November 27, 2017, 16:47:35
I thought I saw steps there a long time ago but the levels are wrong.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: kyn on November 27, 2017, 21:09:40
As much as I would love to knock out a few bricks I don't think the MoD would be impressed :-)

This wall is the boundary for Brompton Barracks, I think this used to be a pedestrian access from the barracks - although I have to evidence of this!
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: MartinR on November 27, 2017, 23:49:12
I know how you feel.  There's a couple of stones in Rochester Cathedral I'd like to knock out to see if the old chantry chapel is where I think it is.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: colin haggart on December 03, 2017, 13:48:44
The toilets are on the left by the steps as you go up Dock Road.   I have seen another blocked up doorway on the left as you go down Dock Road.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: smiffy on December 03, 2017, 15:06:10
Does anyone know for sure that these were actually public toilets? I can't find them marked as such on any map and the doorways seem far too low - a person of average height would have to duck to get through them and they also look a bit too narrow.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: MedwayDweller on December 03, 2017, 17:21:04
I know its weird but there are loads of bricked up toilets in Gillingham that Id like to take a look at, just to see what lies beyond those bricks. Yes, i know, just a load of dirty old porcelain and metal but when something is abandoned for many years it just fascinates me to see how it still looks. Other examples are the ex public toilets just up from the strand in Ingram Road and just a little further up those in Livingstone Circus, sandwiched between shops. Wonder who at the council first decided that these toilets should be sited where they were and then when they should go?
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: Roseann on December 04, 2017, 05:22:21
I know its weird but there are loads of bricked up toilets in Gillingham that Id like to take a look at, just to see what lies beyond those bricks. Yes, i know, just a load of dirty old porcelain and metal but when something is abandoned for many years it just fascinates me to see how it still looks. Other examples are the ex public toilets just up from the strand in Ingram Road and just a little further up those in Livingstone Circus, sandwiched between shops. Wonder who at the council first decided that these toilets should be sited where they were and then when they should go?

There are some really beautiful toilets by Rochester bridge that have been blocked up for years on the Rochester side. If only they had taken a picture of them to preserve their history so I can understand why you would like a peep at others.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: Signals99 on December 04, 2017, 09:00:04
Smiffy, I can confirm that they were toilets, built at the expense of the  Dockyard between the wars, after complaints by local people that Dock Road was becoming an open sewer, as sailors returning to the barracks used it to unload their 'cargo' after a run ashore in Chatham. As a sea cadet I used them a few times, so they must have been closed after the Dock Road accident. I think the reason for closure was that "gentlemen of the night" began to frequent them.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: bromptonboy on December 04, 2017, 12:09:38
Does anyone know for sure that these were actually public toilets? I can't find them marked as such on any map and the doorways seem far too low - a person of average height would have to duck to get through them and they also look a bit too narrow.

Definitely public toilets. I used them on occasions walking up Dock Road from HMS Pembroke. There were other public toilets at the top of Brompton High Street, and just before my time beside the Garrison Gym. All three were located so as to reduce the incidents of street urination by soldiers, sailors and dockyard workers.
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: smiffy on December 04, 2017, 15:23:28
So that's clearly confirmed that they were toilets but It's still a bit strange that they aren't marked on any OS maps. Also, if you were above average height you could easily bash your head on the way in, especially if you were half cut at the time, which I assume would not have been an unusual occurrence. Perhaps the pavement level has been raised a few inches since they fell out of use?
Title: Re: Dock Road, Chatham
Post by: bromptonboy on December 05, 2017, 16:22:02
I think you are right in your assumption of the highway being raised. The doorway in the barracks wall mentioned earlier in this thread is also very much shorter than it should be.