Military => General Military => Topic started by: kyn on November 29, 2008, 18:59:58

Title: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on November 29, 2008, 18:59:58
The parade along the Esplanade to the castle gardens on 2nd August 1919.
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/batgirlphotos/CCF26112008_00000Small-1.jpg)

The tank was officially presented to the city by Maj-Gen, Sir H Mullaly.
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/batgirlphotos/CCF26112008_000001Small.jpg)

The tank was apparently removed in 1952 and coveyed by transporter to a village near Deal

Both pictures can be found at the Guildhall Museum, Rochester.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on November 29, 2008, 19:18:52
The Government gave away over four-hundred tanks after the first world war as gifts to various towns and cities for thier help in the war effort.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: merc on November 29, 2008, 19:56:16
They also had a gun on display in the Castle gardens once to...not sure what type it was though.

http://grumpystumpy.com/england/kent/Rochester/pages/Rochester,1922_jpg.htm
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: seafordpete on November 30, 2008, 09:41:42
They also had a gun on display in the Castle gardens once to...not sure what type it was though.

http://grumpystumpy.com/england/kent/Rochester/pages/Rochester,1922_jpg.htm

That was a Crimean gun on an iron carriage same as the one in Maidstone High St and the Saluting guns at Shheerness shown on this forum a month or so back
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: bromptonboy on January 02, 2009, 13:11:26
During WW1 when the War Department decided heavier guns were needed in the new 'tanks' the guns were supplied from out-of-date stocks of Admiralty stores. To train the soldiers in the use and maintenance of the naval guns the RN Gunnery schools at Chatham, Portsmouth and Plymouth ran training courses. When the war ended, as a mark of gratitude the Army presented each of the Naval Gunnery Schools with a tank.

In 1940 when Britain faced invasion, the naval mechanics at Chatham decided to get the Chatham Trophy Tank up and running as part of the local defences! After much work they managed to get it just about running. It managed to splutter along towards the gateway into the barracks where it completely died. It was left where it 'died' as an impromptue pill-box. I assume it was cut-up for salvage once the invasion scare had passed. However, the Portsmouth Trophy Tank has survived as is now displayed in the Tank Museum at Bovington.

Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Philio81 on January 10, 2009, 13:49:06
Heres some pics of the one at Ashford
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn70/philio1981/ASHFORD%20TANK/20122008982.jpg)
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn70/philio1981/ASHFORD%20TANK/20122008981.jpg)
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn70/philio1981/ASHFORD%20TANK/20122008985.jpg)
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn70/philio1981/ASHFORD%20TANK/20122008983.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: seafordpete on January 10, 2009, 16:24:50
There were 2 basic types one with MGs only as at Ashford, the other with a heavier gun. Known as Male & Female, I'm guessing the MG version was Female
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Philio81 on January 10, 2009, 19:03:55
Yes the ones with mg's were the females. Done a bit of trawling the net and apparently all the tanks presented to the towns were female. Unfortunatly in 1929 the insides and back of the Ashford tank were removed and an electricity sub station built inside it. But this was what saved it from being cut up in the war. !!!! Heres the site i found the info on. http://www.ashford.gov.uk/about_the_borough/history_and_heritage/the_tank.aspx  ;D
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: BenG on April 08, 2009, 14:08:39
Vandals have defaced a World War One memorial tank, causing damage put at hundreds of pounds, police said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7989276.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7989276.stm)

Why, what do they gain out of doing that?  ??? >:( >:(
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Philio81 on April 08, 2009, 20:30:33
Really annoys me this does that poor old tank always seems to get vandalised. Don't think some people realise how lucky we are to have it in our town............. stupid kids probably don't even know any history passed the last time they mugged someone or vandalised something. Might as well give it to a museum at least it wont get damaged or vandalised anymore
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Philio81 on April 09, 2009, 14:53:02
There i 2 cameras as far as i know. One at the back of the tank and one on a pole infront of the tank. Had a look whilst i was in town earlyer and all the pen has been removed round the back of it you can see what looks like chipped of paint from where someones been climbing on but no other damage that i can see
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on April 11, 2009, 20:39:12
Whereabouts is this located?
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: rossco on April 12, 2009, 13:21:05
I really can't understand what drives teenagers to vandalise things, especially historical relics like this tank.   >:(

I think its a case of not appreciating the value of something to other people. Its not like 'Ooo, I feel like vandalising something!' Its more like 'Im gonna write my name on that cos I wanna.' Spur of the moment thing not realising the consequence.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on May 08, 2009, 23:16:39
I've a few cards showing the Canterbury tank - I'll post them up later. I remember hearing a rumour that the tank given to Faversham had been buried under the rec for some reason? Sounds strange but knowing Faversham, not impossible.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Skinns on May 09, 2009, 12:14:01
The one at Ashford used to contain an electricity sub-station but I believe it's empty today.  As a kid I can remember climbing all over it, and I see the kids still do today.  It's had a nice paint job back to the original colours.
 
There are some pictures I took of it some time ago posted it on www.geograph.org.uk
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/279805
and http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/279802
along with some useful links.


Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: smiler on May 11, 2009, 19:37:09
(http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq153/Norm_021/img023.jpg)
Ron Huggins & Smiler at the Cenotaph Whitehall London with the WW11 Tank brought up from the Tank Museum Bovington, A special Parade for the Royal Tank Regiment by permissuon of H.R.H. Queen Elizabeth 11.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: colin haggart on May 29, 2009, 23:50:37
I took photos of this today and I did not know it was there, even though it's been there since 1919.

I took this photo from a photo in the Museum.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/th_WW1Tank5.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/?action=view&current=WW1Tank5.jpg)

I took the rest today.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/th_WW1Tank4.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/?action=view&current=WW1Tank4.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/th_WW1Tank2.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/?action=v
iew&current=WW1Tank2.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/th_WW1Tank3.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk90/colinhaggart/?action=view&current=WW1Tank3.jpg)

The photos should be bigger, I don't know why they have come out this size.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on July 31, 2009, 23:17:04
For details of what is missing from the ashford tank, ie the interior.

www.landships.freeservers.com/mk4_walkaround.htm (http://www.landships.freeservers.com/mk4_walkaround.htm)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: grandarog on September 04, 2009, 20:04:21
Update pics of the tank taken today, I dont know if its the same Bike cahined to the pillar.

(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/grandarog/Wartime%20Stuff/100_0788.jpg)

(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/grandarog/Wartime%20Stuff/100_0787.jpg)

(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/grandarog/Wartime%20Stuff/100_0789.jpg)

(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/grandarog/Wartime%20Stuff/100_0790.jpg)

(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/grandarog/Wartime%20Stuff/100_0791.jpg)

Nice to see it looking so pristine and not graffitted
 on!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Paul on September 24, 2009, 20:47:15
Theres This at the beginning of this thread :)

If you missed it?

http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1811.0
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: KEEPWATCH on October 01, 2009, 21:32:13
Thank you Paul but I did read the link before putting this message on the forum. My task is to get ADDITIONAL information. The tank museum at Bovington has been of great help along with the Guildhall Museum.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on October 04, 2009, 21:40:32
Here, finally, is the Canterbury one.

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss251/Lens35/tank.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on October 06, 2009, 21:44:33
"In each case the tank was delivered by rail from Bovington with a scratch crew and driven to its final resting place. Here the young officer gave an account of the particular tank's war record-almost always fictitious-disabled it mechanically and set off for home."
David Fletcher, historian at the Tank Museum, Bovington, concerning war bond presentation tanks,
The large numbers on the Rochester tank suggest that it was a training tank, if it had served in France it would have carried rails for the unditiching beam and have white/red/white recognition stripes painted on the fronts of the track frame.
To be strictly accurate the Ashford tank should be painted matt medium brown, but the glossy dark green does look better!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on October 08, 2009, 20:53:34
A quick checklist of War Savings presentation tanks in Kent.
Does anyone know of any more?
*Ashford              Mark lV. female.
*Canterbury        Mk lll. female.
  Chatham    
*Deal                   Mk lV.  served in France. delived to Deal 2nd Aug 1919, sold for scrap March 1936.
  Farningham        Mk iV female, parked outside the home of Major W G Wilson, tank pioneer.
*Faversham         Mk lV, female. served in France. Thanks LenP,Kyn.
*Folkestone         Mk lV, female.  served in France.
*Hythe                 Mk lV, male.  
*Maidstone          Mk lll, female.
*Rochester           Mk lll?
*Tonbridge           Mk lV, female.  served in France.
*Tunbridge Wells
*= photo in this thread.
For a discussion on the Ashford tank. http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=29466387 (http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=29466387)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on October 08, 2009, 21:59:21
I thought I'd heard of a Faversham one as I mentioned earlier but it was obviously just hearsay!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: grandarog on October 08, 2009, 22:47:05
Hearsay has it the Faversham tank was alledgedly buried in the recreation ground .I dont know if it has ever been proven as true .
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: PowerSurge on October 18, 2009, 00:21:22
Hearsay has it the Faversham tank was alledgedly buried in the recreation ground .I dont know if it has ever been proven as true .

Someone get their ground sonar detector out. I dont live a million miles from there. Ill have a look see what I can come up with
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on October 25, 2009, 20:03:35
The tank was officially presented to the city by Maj-Gen, Sir H Mullaly.


Major General Herbert Mullaly in The Times

Saturday 15 August 1908 (Honours)

Indian Frontier Operations

The King has been pleased to make the following promotions in and appointments to the Orders of the Star in India and the Indian Empire in connexion with the recent operations against the Zakka Khel and Mohmands:-
C.S.I.
Colonel (Brigadier-General) Herbert Mullaly, C.B.

Tuesday 13 October 1908 (Court Circular)

To be a Companion:- Brigadier-General Herbert Mullaly, for services in connexion with the operations against the Zakka Khel and Mohmunds.
Wednesday 01 May 1918 (Court Circular)
On arrival Their Majesties were received by the Mayor and the Town Clerk of Chatham, the Mayor and Town Clerk of Gillingham, Admiral Sir Doveton Sturdee, Bt. (Commander-in-Chief at the Nore), and Staff, and Major-General Sir Herbert Mullaly and Staff.

Friday 01 December 1922

Major General Sir Herbert Mullaly, surveying the vital Eastern problem, begs Greater Britain to live up to its faith in peace and good will, especially with the Turks and our Moslem fellow-subjects, and to refrain from offending them and their religious principles.
Tuesday 18 March 1924 (Court Circular)
Major General Sir Herbert Mullaly is staying at Potifino, Italy.

Monday 13 June 1932

Obituaries

Major General Sir Herbert  Mullaly, late R.E., died at La Tour de Peilz, Switzerland, on June 9, at the age of 72.
The son of Mr. John Mullaly, of the Honourable East India Company's Service, he was educated privately, and joined the Royal Engineers from Woolwich in 1878.  His first active service was as field engineer with the Chin-Lushai Expedition, 1889-90, when he was mentioned in dispatches.  In 1895 he was officiating assistant secretary of the Military Department, India, D.A.A.G. for R.E., and secretary of the Defence Committee, India, and in 1896 he was appointed D.A.Q.M.G. for Mobilization, India.  In the South African War, 1899-1900, he served as D.A.A.G., being present at Lombard's Kop, the defence of Ladysmith, and other operations.  He was severely wounded and mentioned four times, and received his brevet of lieutenant-colonel and four clasps.
After his return to India he was in 1902-3 officiating deputy secretary, Military Department, India, and was then D.Q.M.G., and in charge of mobilization, India, till 1906, when he was appointed Director of Military Operations in India, a post which he held till 1910.  He was made C.B. in 1905.  In 1908 he officiated as Chief of Staff with the Bazar Valley field Force and the Zakka Khel Expedition, and was again mentioned and created C.S.I.  He commanded a brigade from 1910 to 1913.  In the Great War he commanded a division and the East coast Defences, and was mentioned twice and created K.C.M.G. in 1917.  He retired on an Indian pension in 1920.
Sir Herbert Mullaly married, in 1883, Mabel, daughter of the late Mr. Hastings Read, I.C.S.; she died in 1924.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on October 27, 2009, 13:41:08
Faversham tank  :)

Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on October 27, 2009, 20:36:20
Superb!
Thanks Kyn.
I've changed my mind again - it wasn't hearsay!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on October 28, 2009, 09:06:06
They are from a bygone kent book that was found at a bootfair  :)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: grandarog on October 28, 2009, 15:39:13
Thats the one that legend says is buried in the recreation ground !!!
First pic going along road by Water Tower.
Second outside station Last cant see where  looks like rec. where it was located then.

Heres a bit cribbed from the Faversham Society News Letter Nov 2007.



THE REC TANK some people still remember, and
others ask about it. It came to Faversham in
recognition of the town's sterling National Savings
efforts during World War 1. 264 other towns in
England and Wales were similarly rewarded. The
experts tell us it was a 'female' tank, whatever this
means - the mind boggles. It arrived by rail from
Bovington Camp and was then driven by a Tank Corps
crew down Newton Road and along East Street to its
final resting place at the SW corner of the Rec,
discharging an impressive if unhealthy exhaust in the
process. The impression was given by the National
War Savings Committee that it had seen active service,
but if it bore scars, learner-drivers rather than enemy
action were probably to blame - most of the tanks had
been used only for training purposes. It was
eventually scrapped, like all the others, bar one - the
one at Ashford, which survived only because the local
electricity undertaking used it to house a transformer.

Source;_ Faversham Society News Letter Nov 2007.


Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on October 28, 2009, 19:51:36
The Faversham tank may well have seen action, the rails over the top , used to prevent the unditching beam catching on the top of the tank, were only fitted once the tank was in France.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: sheppey_bottles on November 05, 2009, 21:53:41
Here is a further image I found of the Rochester Tank in the Castle gardens with members of the band of the Royal Berkshire Regiment.

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l218/Sheppey_bottles_John/tank.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: bromptonboy on November 06, 2009, 10:14:38
A quick checklist of War Savings presentation tanks in Kent.
Does anyone know of any more?
Ashford              mark iv
Canterbury        mk iii
Chatham    
Deal                   mk iv    served in France.
Farningham        mk iv
Faversham         mk iv    served in France.    Thanks, LenP,Kyn.
Folkestone         mk iv    served in France.
Hythe                 mk iv  
Maidstone          mk iii
Rochester           mk iii?
Tonbridge           mk iv    served in France.
Tunbridge Wells
For a discussion on the Ashford tank. http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=29466387 (http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=29466387)
Maidstone, Canterbury. http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=11185428 (http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=11185428)
HMS Pembroke had one presented to it by the Tank Corps in recognition of the Chatham Gunnery School training the tank crews in the use of the naval guns that were fitted to the tanks. The Portsmouth Gunnery School tank is now displayed in the Tank Musuem. The Chatham one was scrapped!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on November 13, 2009, 17:20:42
These have just been passed onto me from KEEPWATCH who found them at the Guidhall Museum Rochester.


And what lovely ones they are too!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on November 14, 2009, 23:56:41
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss251/Lens35/img232.jpg)

The presentation of the Canterbury tank occured on 19th July 1919 to celebrate the 'Great Peace Day'. Although this was celebrated throughout East Kent, it seems the Canterbury tank was presented earlier than some of the others, notably Faversham, Rochester and Ashford.

"Throughout East Kent on 19th July 1919 there was a very full programme of festivities arranged including childrens sports, firework displays and the chain of beacon bonfires, all to celebrate the 'Great Peace Day'. The events arranged in Canterbury were fairly numerous, with the military giving valuable help to the 'Council Peace Celebration Committee'. The major event commenced at noon with a procession by the Mayor and Corporation from the Guildhall to the Dane John Moat to officially receive the tank from Major General Sir Colin MacKenzie. The tank which had been placed in the moat the previous day,was presented by the National War Savings Committee in recognition of the city's financial assistance, nearly 250,000 given during the war. In the photograph taken from the Dane John Terrace by John G. Charlton can be seen the Mayor and Mayoress Bremner, Sheriff Pentecost and Aldermen Pope and Wiltshire. This picteresque ceremony was watched with obvious interest by some thousands of citizens assembled on the upper Dane John Terrace, in the Rhodaus Town thoroughfare and in the moat itself. A guard of honour was formed by fifty soldiers from the Buffs, bearing their decorated lances, whilst a guard was also provided by a contingent from the 5th Royal Irish Lancers. The band of the 1st Battalion the Buffs was also in attendance."

Picture and text from 'Canterbury in old Picture Postcards Volume 1' by Terry Hougham, published by the European Library, 1987.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: underwhere on November 23, 2009, 12:37:24
Here's the Tonbridge tank on 29th July 1919. It was later parked to the north of Tonbridge Castle gatehouse. It is not there now. Photo from "Around Tonbridge in Old Photographs" by Charlie Bell.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee165/underwhere2/tonbridge%20tank/tonbridgetankresized.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on November 24, 2009, 22:59:34
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2721/4132244158_4494df5476_o.jpg)
The Deal tank pictured in 1923.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on November 26, 2009, 08:28:07
Two more nice pictures, thanks.  I didn't think there were that many around, when we started this thread it seemed to take ages to get any pictures up!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on November 26, 2009, 20:42:32
That Deal pic is fantastic!
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on November 29, 2009, 11:18:27
Although this picture has nothing to do with Kent. It shows how easy it is to move a tank. :) Taken in 1917.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/4142747817_cd3eec5129.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on January 25, 2010, 15:48:50
Some more additions from KEEPWATCH:

Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on January 28, 2010, 21:47:20
Tunbridge Wells. 1919.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4311758697_8a73766a4a.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: seafordpete on February 13, 2010, 10:39:21
I think field guns were offered too, there was one at Newhaven, got taken away WW2. You see a lot in France around war memorials too
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Stewie on February 13, 2010, 13:21:41
I never knew there were so many, presumably as the years past they became everyday objects in their respective towns (the one at Hythe looks quite 'part pf the scenery') until the advent of WWII when they were cut up for wartime scrap?
It's strange now but the fact that so many towns had these tanks shows the esteem that the armed forces were held in by the genral public. Can't imagine Medway Council mounting a post Gulf conflict 'Challenger' tank in the castle gardens and having the same impact.   
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Merv on February 13, 2010, 18:39:34
I don't if I imagined it but i seem to recall when I was a very small nipper seeing one on display behind railings maybe, and possibly at Ashford.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: bonnie on February 21, 2010, 21:40:46
Don,t forget the Tank on the Roundabout where the REME used to be in Chart Road, although I don,t think it,s an English one it,s beigh coloured and was put there in the Nin etys
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: bonnie on February 21, 2010, 21:42:47
SORRY I SHOULD HAVE SAID ASHFORD
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: grandarog on March 08, 2010, 21:01:21
Heres a pic of Presentation Day at Tonbridge.
(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/grandarog/Wartime%20Stuff/tank.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: LenP on March 14, 2010, 23:20:42
From 'East Kent at War' by David Collyer, Budding Books 1998.

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss251/Lens35/img441.jpg)

'Folkestone's First World War tank was cut up by Ginger Baker, the scrap merchant, as part of the 'Scrap Drive' which led to the loss of garden railings, ornamental balustrades and park gates throughout East Kent. The tank, which stood on The Durlocks overlooking the harbour, was presented to the town in July 1919 as a reward for its efforts towards War Savings during the earlier conflict.'
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: DoverDan on March 15, 2010, 21:36:22
As far as i know there are only two origional ones left, one is at Ashford and the other is at the Bovington tank museum. There is an volunteer group i think in Lincon who are building a replica and are planning to take it to all the towns & cities that had one.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on March 15, 2010, 22:23:50
There are loads of them at Bovington, I was there a couple of year ago, one of them is still in running order and there's one in Lincoln that's an original. And of course Ashford.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on March 25, 2010, 15:57:50
Some extra pictures of the presentation of the Rochester tank sent to me to post by KEEPWATCH.

Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: kyn on July 01, 2010, 18:38:16
Two pics of the one at Hythe
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/batgirlphotos/KHF/Hythe.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii34/batgirlphotos/KHF/Hythe2.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on February 20, 2011, 20:51:44
The Ashford tank arriving at St. George's Square. 1919.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5462671520_8d4fef351f.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on February 20, 2011, 21:03:27
The arrival of the WW1 tank at Tonbridge on 29th July 1919.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5094/5462818388_c3656b1fd8.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: dave on February 21, 2011, 08:56:51

Any idea of the village near Deal that was home to the tank? Is it still about?
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: JohnG on February 28, 2011, 15:33:49
Walmer used to have a field gun, it used to stand on the triangle of grass by the pedestrian crossing at the Walmer end of the Strand.  JohnG
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on February 28, 2011, 17:59:49
In the photo of the Deal tank, you can see a field gun poking out from behind it.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Far away on December 07, 2011, 14:44:29
In the Hythe picture with the field gun, is that field gun an 18 pounder? I seem to remember from somewhere that many WW1 18 pounders were converted to 25 pounders.

Although I used to live in Ashford, and remember the tank well - and fondly, these days I am geographically closer to those used as memorials in Ukraine.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: keniff on December 07, 2011, 15:45:29
In the photo of the Deal tank, you can see a field gun poking out from behind it.
Deal again, and here is a picture of the field gun with a tank poking out from behind !!

(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa448/keniff1/DealWWItank.jpg)
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: unfairytale on December 07, 2011, 17:51:54
That's a great photo. I guess that the building behind is the barracks that once stood in the castle until they were bombed in WW2.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: John Thomas on April 29, 2012, 11:48:45
I can remember a WW1 tank being situated in Rochester Castle Gardens which we used to play on.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Andrew401968 on April 29, 2012, 20:11:52
Just out interest regarding the WWI tanks, when I was doing some research a Bovington, I either read or was told by David Fletcher (Librarian at Bovington and Author) that the only reason the WWI tank exhibits survived the scrap drive in WW2 was because the Museum staff were able postition them at local junctions and justifiy there exclusion from the scrap drive as being useful for local defence as static defence points. I know one was used as a target, you can see the holes. Unfortunately, many exhibits where scrapped if they could not be used in a similiar manner or for training.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: S/9134 on July 14, 2012, 16:49:48
Dear All,
           does anyone have a picture of the Tank that was situated at the road junction of London Road outside the General Post Office Building. I understand that it was there up until the beginning of the Second World War.
                               Kind regards,
                                                     S/9134 From Tunbridge Wells. Kent
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Far away on February 19, 2013, 13:16:18
While looking for Scammel and Pickfords images on a different thread, I came across this link for a WW1 tank being trailered somewhere without its guns: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/transport/article3619667.ece
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on March 20, 2015, 17:17:00
Hythe's presentation tank and the German gun beside it were broken up in April 1937 and sold as scrap at 3 per ton.

For details of what is missing from the Ashford tank, ie the interior.

http://www.landships.freeservers.com/mk4_walkaround.htm (http://www.landships.freeservers.com/mk4_walkaround.htm)
Broken link, here's the new one. http://youtube.com/watch?v=E3WeDtoyyOw (http://youtube.com/watch?v=E3WeDtoyyOw)

While looking for Scammel and Pickfords images on a different thread, I came across this link for a WW1 tank being trailered somewhere without its guns: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/transport/article3619667.ece
The photo was taken at Woolwich 22 June 1932.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on January 31, 2016, 18:35:18
The Farningham tank.
Acquiring and installing the tank was a complicated affair as shown in Farningham Parish Council minutes.
Link with photo http://www.felhs.org.uk/Ww1/50.%20THE%20FARNINGHAM%20TANK%20WAR%20TROPHY.PDF (http://www.felhs.org.uk/Ww1/50.%20THE%20FARNINGHAM%20TANK%20WAR%20TROPHY.PDF) 804 KB.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on April 09, 2017, 23:15:40
In a previous post LenP posted a photo of the Folkestone tank being cut up. We can now give a date.

SOLD AS SCRAP IRON

Folkestone War Souvenirs

London, Wednesday:-
(7 April 1937) Deciding to sell the town's war souvenirs as scrap iron, Folkestone Council accepted 22/6 per ton for a British tank, a field gun and a German howitzer, which was presented to it by the National War Savings Committee in recognition of the town's support of the war loans.
The "News Chronicle," in a leader, says: "So memorials of the war to end war, set up so proudly, now go back into the melting pot to help in the preparations for the next war."


22 shillings 6 pence = 1. 12 1/2 pence.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: Sentinel S4 on April 10, 2017, 19:27:16
On a side note. The pic of the tank at Farningham seems to have a Steam Waggon of some sort taking water from the river. I do love these old pictures for the background detail. However it seems that the six foot high fence is missing from around the tank, this was specified by the Parish Council, down to the locks that had to be fitted.

S4.
Title: Re: WWI Tanks in Kent
Post by: filmer01 on April 11, 2017, 17:23:00
S4, the estimate from Knowles only relates to sections 1,2 & 5. The note written across the estimate says that he is unable to carry out the traction of the tank, and he and others think that the expensive iron railings will not be required.

I see that posts and chain are added along the Green in 1921. It is still so defined. The very easily identifiable windows in the old photo are the Lion Hotel, and a quick GSV along the road finds that a small steam waggon could still get water in the same place. Thanks for pointing that out, I had missed the detail, most interesting.