Military => Camps & Barracks => Topic started by: merc on May 22, 2008, 11:53:04

Title: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on May 22, 2008, 11:53:04
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"Parade Ground"

Construction work on the Barracks was began in 1897,being completed at a cost of £425,000.
Upon being first occupied in May 1903 a total of 4,600 Officers,Petty Officers and Men were absorbed from the three depot ships Pembroke,Royal Adelaide and Forte.


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"Stand Easy"

The need to keep the men occupied led to the intoduction of a number of futile tasks such as the chore of cleaning the parade ground.
On such occasions a huge number of ratings were assembled and constantly marched backwards and forwards picking up every bit of litter and fag end to be found.


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A view of the Drill Hall,the scene of the disasterous air raid bombing of 1917.
After the tragedy ratings,during war time often slept in an underground tunnel.


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"Mess Deck"

The long hard wooden benches were once accompanied by wide spittoons laid on the deck.
Not surprisingly,Tuberculosis was rife amongst the lower decks.


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An early view of one of the Barrack rooms,showing the megre conditions that existed prior to WWI.


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"Mens Reading Room"


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"The Swimming pool"


Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on June 24, 2008, 11:20:11
Some pics of the construction of the gymnasium in December 1908

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on June 27, 2008, 14:39:23
Some more pics, this time of the construction of the RN Barracks (Pembroke) Chapel.  Now the St Georges centre.

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: seafordpete on August 19, 2008, 19:13:44
I can remember installing beer pumps in the Wardroom at Pembroke it was a big bar and there were 3 breweries involved. The Mess manager was a Liet Comdr we called Nelson as he only had one arm or eye (can't remember which). but we were really well treated. A Wren steward brought us coffee and bikkies, lunch came with a huge flask of soup and a pile of sandwiches that would do for 10 never mind us 3. They asked that we take the trays back to the galley opposite when done so I did. Asked the cook where to put them, "move that stuff  and leave em there "says he pointing to a worltop with a few files & books on. When I moved the stuff the world's population of roaches exploded from under them!!!  :o.

Another call we used to fight for was the Nuclear Towers. There were usually 2 subs in for refit at any time and the crews lived in the tower block which had messes for each ship so overall there were about 8 bars. The problem was that we only used to get a call for the towers not the ship/mess. After getting in, you would get taken to a mess, pint of Stella in front of you regardless of time of day and if you were lucky it might not get topped up by which time you found that was the wrong mess, this could be repeated several times until you got the right mess. We had fitters go in at 9-30 and have to be picked up in the afternoon bleeped out their skulls. Then the Gate Police would demand you unloaded the van just to make life easy! Great days!! ::) More another day Pete
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on September 18, 2008, 18:40:17
Building works commenced in May 1897 by Holloway Brothers of London to the design of Colonel Henry Pikington on the site of Chatham Convict Prison.  First to be complete was the parade ground and Drill Hall on 26th March 1902 with the development of the swimming baths, bowling alley and other facilities complete by December the same year, with the barrack blocks, Anson, Blake, Drake, Granville, Hawke and Nelson being completed soon after.  The Navel barracks finally opened on 30th April 1903 with 5000 Naval personnel marching from the hulks within the basin, led by the Depot (Blue Jacket) Band, to the £425,000 buildings.  HMS Pembroke took its name from the 3rd rate HMS Pembroke built in 1812 that had become the base ship in 1873.  This hulk was one of three, the other two named Royal Adelaide and Forte, situated in the newly built basins at St Mary's Island, having previously been moored in the River Medway to house the reserve fleet awaiting to be appointed to ships.  During the years up to 1906 a large house was constructed for the commodore and St Georges Church was constructed.  Once complete HMS Pembroke boated accommodation, a gunnery school that had been moved from Sheerness, a new training centre, church, cinema, canteen, infirmary, gymnasium, swimming baths and a large parade ground and drill shed.  A time ball was installed upon the central tower of the wardroom, this was dropped daily at 10am and 1pm except for Sundays giving the exact time to the ships on the Medway.  Sundays would see all personnel attend the church parade, this entered the arch at the eastern end of the parade ground and march past the central steps holding the PO's and Master at Arms and into the drill shed where they would 'fall out'.  on 2nd November 1905 the Boys Brigade was formed at the barracks for the sons of RN and RM personnel, except commissioned officers.  On 19th Decembeer 1906 an opening ceronmony and dedication of St Georges Church was performed by the Bishop of Rochester.  On 18th september 1912 chatham sailors opened Pembroke House Girls Orphanage on Oxford Road, the orphanage was financed and managed by the Chatham Sailors.  The years leading up to the First World War saw the drill hall used as an exhibition centre, Naval store (of rum, clothes and general supplies), a building materials warehouse and as an overflow barracks with the court martial room situated on an upper floor near the rear of the building.  Also during this time Chatham had become one of three Royal Navy's manning ports with the area holding over a third of the Navy and 205 ships manned by the Chatham
Division.  This is the roll the town held until the advent of central manning in 1956.

During 1917 the drill hall had been in use as overflow accommodation due to sailors being stranded when HMS Vanguard was sunk at Scapa Flow in July 1917 and an outbreak of cerebro-spinal meningitis, spotted fever, at the barracks causing in an increased need for sleeping accommodation to avoid further infection.  Unfortunately this meant that the drill hall was full of soldiers on the evening of 3rd September 1917 with 900 men either sleeping or resting upon their hammocks.  At 9.30 pm five Gotha Bombers left Gontrode in Belgium, the bombers could carry 14 bombs each and this was the first time they had carried out a night-time attack, a decision made due to the great loss of the bombers during daylight raids.  One of the bombers encountered engine problems and had to return to bass but the remaining four carried on and passed over Eastchurch at around 11pm where they followed the River Medway towards Chatham.  As this was the first night time raid the Medway Towns were unprepared and the whole of Chatham was illuminated with none of the anti-aircraft guns prepared.  A practise alert had been carried out earlier in the day and when the planes were finally spotted and an alert given a lot of people ignored the warning believing it to be another practise drill.  46 bombs were dropped over Gillingham and Chatham causing much damage.  The drill hall suffered a direct hit and the bomb shattered the glass roof, sending dangerous shards of glass flying through the drill hall before exploding when it hit the floor.  The clock upon the drill hall stopped at 11.12, giving the exact time the bomb exploded.  The men asleep or resting inside had little chance of survival, those that were not injured from the explosion were cut to pieces by the falling glass from the roof.  Ordinary seaman Frederick W. Turpin arrived at the drill hall to offer assistance, later he recorded the scene in his notebook:

It was a gruesome task.  Everywhere we found bodies in a terribly mutilated condition.  Some with arms and legs missing and some headless.  The gathering up of dismembered limbs turned one sick.  It was a terrible affair and the old sailors, who had been in several battles, said they would rather be in ten Jutlands or Heliogolands than go through another raid such as this.

The rescuers spent seventeen hours searching the rubble for their fellow seamen, many using their bare hands to dig through the rubble:

It was a sad spectacle in the moonlight - officers and men carrying the dead bodies of comrades into buildings which had been transformed into a mortuary and the seriously wounded cases into motor ambulances which sped to the hospital - flying glass and falling debris accounting for many of the casualties.

E. Cronk also attended to offer assistance, he stated later:

The raider dropped two bombs; one in the middle of the drill shed and one near the wall of the parade round just where the sailors were sleeping.  I shall never forget that night - the lights fading and the clock stopping -we of the rescue party picking out bodies, and parts of bodies, from among glad and debris and placing them in bags, fetching out bodies in hammocks and laying them on a tarpaulin on the parade ground (you could not identify them).  I carried one sailor to the sick bay who was riddled with shrapnel and had no clothes left on him.  In the morning, to show that the officials could tell who was who, they had a general Pipe asking all the sailors of different messes if they could identify any of the lost; it was impossible in most cases.  It was one of the most terrible nights I have ever known, the crying and the moaning of dying men who had ten minutes before been fast asleep.

Gideon Gardiner described the scene of the temporary morgue within the gymnasium:

Some had never woken up; apparently the shock appeared to have stopped their hearts.  They were stretched out, white, gaunt, drawn faces, with eyes nearly bolting out of their heads.  Others were greatly cut up, mangled, bleeding and some were blown limb from limb.

The sailors who survived with injuries were treated on site by medics and the sick bay staff, however many of the injuries were too serious and later died at the hospital.  It is still uncertain how many sailors died in the drill shed, some say 130 and some say 136 men died.  It is estimated 90 men died whilst in their hammocks and another 40 so seriously injured they were not expected to live.  The official total of dead after the raid was 98 however with the seriously ill in hospital the number rose to around 136.

The funeral took place on Thursday 6th September with the procession comprising of 18 lorries draped with the Union Jack and each carrying 6 coffins.  These 98 men were buried at Woodlands Cemetery in Gillingham with another 25 men being interred elsewhere and later burials taking place once the ratings had been identified.  All the men were buried with full military honours and were followed by a procession of marching soldiers and sailors with thousands of people lining the streets.  

1918 Saw the start of the Spanish Influenza epidemic, this resulted in the death of 242 men at HMS Pembroke.  On the 23rd November 1922 the Royal Naval Maternity Home, Cnanda House, was opened by Princess Marie Louise, the maternity home was administered by Chatham sailors.  In April 1942 H. M. King George VI made a moral boosting visit to the Medway Towns, the visit was carried out under total secrecy and the local press were only informed of the visit 30 minutes before the King's arrival, this visit was followed in 1950 by Princess Elizabeth attending a service at St Georges Church dedicating the Chancel as a memorial to the sailors of the Nore Command.  The following year saw tragedy when 24 Roayl Marine Cadets, who were marching down Dock Road to visit the barracks to watch a boxing tournament, were knocked down and killed by a bus.  After the war Chatham became the home of the Reserve Fleet with a few operational ships based there including the Antarctic Patrol vessel HMS Endurance in 1956.  It was announced in the mid-fifties that centralised drafting was to replace local port divisions, this took place in 1957 and a year later there were rumours that the barracks were to close.  The barracks and gunnery school did in fact close and the site was re-opened as the Royal Navy Supply School on the 1st April 1959.  On the 4th March 1960 the Civil Lord of the Admiralty stated:

The Royal Naval Barracks of Chatham will be retained for the Navy to accommodate men from ships being refitted

However the function of a holding depot would end

!974 saw the deaths of three men within the barracks, Petty Officer Arthur Dodd was murdered on 11th April by a fellow Petty Officer in the PO's Mess and two firemen were killed when a fire broke out in the bedding store on the 8th November.

On the 27th July 1981 a wedding cake for Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer left the cookery school at HMS Pembroke on its journy to Buckingham Palace, the same year the barracks was finally ordered to close alongside the adjacent dockyard, this news was given in 1981 and they were to close by March 1984.  With the eruption of the Falklands War in 1982 it was hoped the barracks would remain open but unfortunately this was not to be.  The Royal Navy supply School closed in September 1983 and moved to HMS Raliegh in Devon, this loss was followed by Chatham's Royal Marine Band who moved to Northolt however they returned temporarily to take part in the closing ceremonies.  Friday 3rd June 1983 saw local mayors, churchmen other dignitaries and the Commander-in-Chief Naval Home Command arrive to witness the Admiral sir David Cassidi take the salute at the final Ceremonial Divisions.  Three weeks later a sponsored walk was undertaken by Leading Wren Lorna Wright and her ship mates, they raised £1,500 that was presented to the Secretary of King George's Fund for Sailors on the 8th July.  On the 8th August local dignitaries arrived at St Georges Church where they joined in its last Divine Service.  HMS Pembroke was handed over to the closure party on 29th October 1983, fleets of lorries arrived in November to remove the remaining items.  Again the local dignitaries returned on 18th February 1984 and joined the closure party, they met at the mast outside the wardroom before moving onto the main gate where Commander Wilson gave a speech and a Royal Marines Buglar played the Last Post, the ceremony ended with the gates being locked.

The site was taken over by Greenwich University in 1994 and opened a Compass Centre, this has since expanded with most of the buildings being reused and new ones have been constructed.  St Georges Church is now used for exhibitions and conferences and has had its pews removed although many of the memorials reamin as well as stained glass windows depicting 94 ships badges, those that were lost during WWII.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on September 18, 2008, 18:43:30
Some pics of the construction of the gymnasium in December 1908

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construction of the RN Barracks (Pembroke) Chapel.  Now the St Georges centre.

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Couple of pics from around 2003

Drill Hall
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The offices
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The swimming pool, at the moment still empty, with the gymnasium behind
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Gym still in use by the university
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Looking along the parade ground
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Demolished buildings
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A couple of pics of one of the entrances to the air raid shelters

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All paintword & coats 19-5-1956
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There was an operating theatre inside these with numerous rooms, offices etc.  5 entrances i think with one coming out at Khyber Road within Brompton Barracks so they were shared between the army and navy!
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on September 18, 2008, 20:53:44
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Sorry, chopped a bit off..."market place imagined to be somewhere on the Chinese coast."

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on September 19, 2008, 10:01:03
Pictures taken by my Dad

Plaque at the main gate
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Guard Houses, presumably this is where the sailors left the barracks to board their ships
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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on May 12, 2009, 12:51:45
18 November 1981
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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on September 01, 2009, 19:51:35
August 15,1961

Security tightened after raid at Naval Depot

After a raid by Police cadets on the Armoury at H.M.S. Pembroke,the former Naval barracks at Chatham,the armoury has been moved from just inside the main gate to a more secure position in an unused cell in the punishment block,where it is under constant guard.

It was explained that four Police cadets,with the cooperation of the Medway Towns Police,had taken part in a security test arranged at the barracks last month by the Flag Officer,Medway, Rear Admiral I.W.T. Beloe. in connexion with his first annual inspection of the barracks.

The four Cadets dressed as dockyard workmen in brown overalls climbed over the boundary fence of H.M.S. Pembroke at an isolated point to see if they could get through to the barracks armoury and to the barracks Pay Office.
Two of them posing as plumbers got through to the Armoury,where they forced the lock on the door and got away undetected.
The other two Cadets,posing as window cleaners arrived at the Pay Office where,however,their right to be there was questioned, They left quickly,leaving behind a cardboard box which was suppose to contain a bomb.
They had been unsuccessful in their actual mission,which was to try and get at the safe in the Pay Office.
When the box was found and the lock on the Armoury door was seen to have been forced,the Officer of the day had to make a report and it was later laid down by Rear Admiral Beloe that security measures on the Armoury should be looked into.
An Admiral spokesman said tonight: "In the Armoury at the time were 24 Rifles and ammunition for them. Nothing was taken however. It must be pointed out that H.M.S. Pembroke is not a secret establishment in any way,it is merely a training and accommodation centre".
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on September 02, 2009, 12:43:20
I wonder where the punishment block was?
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Lyn L on September 02, 2009, 12:57:29
From the horses mouth , the punishment block was just inside the main gate of Pembroke, my hubby was in the RN and spent his last few months in the Navy there, plus being there at other times, we got married in St Georges Church  too, think he remembers the punishment block well Lol. :)
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on September 02, 2009, 15:40:07
Thanks for that, i'm guesing it has now been demolished...
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Lyn L on September 02, 2009, 19:17:19
Kyn, there's a pic on City Ark of the Guardroom  if you want to see it, Couchman collection for HMS Pembroke. No DE 402 19 20L jpg.  
All demolished now, I believe all the Barrack Churches were almost exactly the same design, St George's had a navy blue carpet down the aisle, ( I remember that from our wedding day ) and the one at Deal Marine Barracks had a red carpet, my brother married in that church a few months before me, apart from them the layout etc was the same.
Were the buildings built by the Royal Engineers ? Brompton Barracks is very similar , they built the barracks in Cairo Egypt, where my Dad was in the 30s, great builders whoever they were .
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on April 04, 2010, 16:03:32
A couple of pictures from Keith Gulvin's collection.
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Rose Garden
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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on April 04, 2010, 20:57:49
Nice pics  :)

I wonder if that's Admiralty House, top left, in the Rose Garden one ?
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on April 04, 2010, 22:25:11
I can't seem to work out the location of the rose garden, I thought it was nearer the dockyard because of the chimney.  Bottom corner of the barrack site, where the Medway Tunnel roundabout is?
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on April 04, 2010, 23:01:11
Oh yeah, i see now Kyn.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: bromptonboy on April 06, 2010, 13:25:57
Re: the second picture. The Rose Garden with the flagstaff is now the lawn in front of the Wardroom Block. The picture has been taken from an upstairs window of that block.The staircase in the left forground is still there but hidden in the overgrowth. The road that can be seen by the gateway to the left of the picture is Khyber Road. The buildings up on the hill are RE buildings in the vicinity of Fieldworks Road
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on April 06, 2010, 13:48:06
Thanks for that bromptonboy, you can see the arch hidden in the tree's here:  http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=sjzh0th1b6wx&scene=24344968&lvl=2&sty=b
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on April 06, 2010, 14:20:34
Kindly sent to me by GodfreyPool, he would like to hear from anyone who may be able to advise him in regards to searching hospital records!

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In particular with reference to the bombing on 3rd Sept 1917 I thought you might be interested to see this letter from the Admiralty sent to my gt.grandmother Elizabeth Meath , concerning her eldest son John George Meath b.1898.My mother met her Uncle John and remembers his arm being badly scarred and twisted at the elbow from his injuries.

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I have attache
d another naval document which is a certificate for wounds & hurts , when he was injured and lost an eye on 26th March 1918,  while working in the boiler shop attached to the mechanical training establishment at HMS Pembroke.

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Chatham Barracks seems to have have played such a significant role in my mothers maternal family I was looking at all their naval records and the dates when they were posted at HMS Pebroke , my Gt.Grandfather John Meath was stationed there on and off from Jan 1890 , till 1918, you might just be able to make it out the first instance from the attached naval record

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On another topic my gt.gt Grandmother Lucy Kingston (possibly Johnson at death) died following childbirth in hospital at chatham on 29 feb 1876 female hospital ch
atham , see scrap of letter possibly refering to this, from Chatham Barracks 28/2/76

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Leofwine on July 07, 2010, 03:12:49
Found this album of photos from Charlesworth & Morehen, Photographic Dealers in Brompton.  It shows some photos from when the barracks were first opened.

http://www.axfordsabode.org.uk/pdf-docs/pembrok1.pdf
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on March 03, 2011, 10:43:40
Here's one of the Guardhouse from 1909:

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: LenP on June 11, 2011, 21:47:18
Another postcard view..

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Leofwine on June 22, 2011, 17:27:37
Another old postcard view, c.1905-10.  The 'gardens' on the opposite side of the road are interesting.

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on June 24, 2011, 09:21:24
Here's a scan of the Menu & Programme of Music from the Dinner commemorating the 50th Anniversary of the opening of the Barracks. Held on 14th May 1953:

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cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: smiffy on June 24, 2011, 14:05:01

I think my dad would have been one of the cooks who prepared the food for that menu  :)  He was involved in most of the functions at Pembroke in the 50's.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: davidt on June 24, 2011, 21:03:13
A few scans from my postcard collection:

(http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae226/davidt131/IMG_0026.jpg)

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on July 12, 2011, 11:35:15
Here's a couple from my collection that I don't think have been posted on here before:

Reception Room:
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/RNB%20Chatham/ReceptionRoom.jpg)

Officers' Mess:
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/RNB%20Chatham/OfficersMess.jpg)

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on November 22, 2011, 19:17:37
Programme for the 1949 King's Birthday Parade at HMS Pembroke:

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/Chatham%20Various%20Scans/RNBKGVI1.jpg)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/Chatham%20Various%20Scans/RNBKGVI2.jpg)

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/Chatham%20Various%20Scans/RNBKGVI3.jpg)

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: WO1RNR on November 23, 2011, 23:13:48
On the 10th September 2006, Rear Admiral Phillip Wilcocks DSC unveiled a plaque outside the Drill Shed, commemorating the Sailors killed on that tragic night, I was at that time the RNR Command Warrant Officer and accompanied him during the ceremony. I will put up the programme when I can dig it out.
I also have some photos of the day.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: WO1RNR on November 23, 2011, 23:32:31
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o234/mrtonymatthewsqvrm/ChathamDrillShedMemorialParade196.jpg)
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: WO1RNR on November 23, 2011, 23:35:24
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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on November 24, 2011, 07:58:49
Thanks for adding these :)
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on January 04, 2012, 17:13:34
SUBJECT:      PROPOSED WAR MEMORIAL FOR ST. GEORGE’S CHURCH, ROYAL NAVAL BARRACKS, CHATHAM.

FROM:   COMMODORE, R.N. BARRACKS, CHATHAM.
DATE:   29TH NOVEMBER, 1947.
TO:   COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, THE NORE.

It is requested that the following project for a war memorial from non-public funds for St. George’s Church, R.N. Barracks, Chatham, may be submitted for final approval to the admiralty.
2.   Proposals have been received from time to time from captains of ships and relatives to commemorate those lost at sea in plaques, stained glass windows and tablets.
It becomes clear that a well considered design by an expert artist was required to co-ordinate the proposals, so that the beauty of the church would be enhanced.
3.   The canteen Committee was approached, and a substantial sum of money was voted to commemorate those ships manned from the Port Division sunk during the war in which so many of their shipmates had lost their lives.
4.   The architect of Guildford Cathedral, Mr, Edward Maufe, was consulted, and after careful consideration the architect, the canteen Committee and those concerned agreed that the project should include the following features:-

(a)   The existing crude red brick walls of the sanctuary to be finished a stone-white colour, the Purbeck shafts and the stonework to be cleaned only.
(b)   The existing plain pine ceiling to be decoratively painted in harmony with the new stained glass windows.
(c)   The existing reredos, which is of fine design to be completed by further gilding and colouring of figures, canopies and foliage.
(d)   The existing black wrought iron screen to have its “flourishes” finished in English gold leaf.
(e)   The existing zinc organ pipes to be cleaned and decorated.
(f)   The existing crude red carpet to be dyed.
(g)   The existing varnished stalls, altar rails and organ consol to be “pickled” to harmonize with the reredos.
(h)   The existing varnished standard candlesticks to be finished English gold leaf and burnished.
(i)   The existing flood lights to be modernized by adding anti-glare fittings.
(j)   The provision of a beautifully bound book of Remembrance.
(k)   The ten existing plain glass windows of the sanctuary and chancel to be replaced by stained glass windows to commemorate ships from the Port Division which were sunk.

5.   Mr. Maufe’s general plan of the redecoration proposed above is forwarded herewith.  The present rough finished red brick is colour washed off-white.
6.   On Mr. Maufe’s advice, Mr. Hugh Easton, who carried out the work of the Battle of Britain windows in Westminster, was called in.  This ex R.N.V.R. officer showed great interest and enthusiasm, and has produced a first design of the windows, which is also forwarded herewith.
7.   Mr. Easton has made this sketch to show the general effect and colour of his proposals.  It will be observed that the design includes in the head of the windows the signs of the cross, at the foot of one window one single figure, and in the body of the windows emblems of the ships to be commemorated, which are not yet complete.
8.   The money from non-public funds is sufficient to cover the estimated cost.  Mr. Maufe, Mr. Easton and the Royal Naval Barracks’ representatives are completely satisfied with the proposals.
9.   I would emphasize that a great deal of time and thought have been put into this project to ensure that the effect of all the proposals will be to beautify the whole church.  It is therefore hoped that the design which is intended to convey a sense of thankfulness for splendid and willing sacrifice, and to commemorate a fine episode in British Naval history may be accepted as a whole.

B.C.B. Brook
REAR ADMIRAL
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on March 04, 2012, 23:39:55
1901
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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on March 11, 2012, 11:18:09
HMS Pembroke took its name from the 3rd rate HMS Pembroke built in 1812 that had become the base ship in 1873.  This hulk was one of three, the other two named Royal Adelaide and Forte, situated in the newly built basins at St Mary's Island, having previously been moored in the River Medway to house the reserve fleet awaiting to be appointed to ships.  

Here is a plan dated 1901 showing the boats in the basins in use as accommodation whilst the new barracks were constructed.
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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on April 26, 2012, 15:16:36
HMS Pembroke took its name from the 3rd rate HMS Pembroke built in 1812 that had become the base ship in 1873.  This hulk was one of three, the other two named Royal Adelaide and Forte, situated in the newly built basins at St Mary's Island, having previously been moored in the River Medway to house the reserve fleet awaiting to be appointed to ships. 

A postcard c1900 showing the hulk:

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on June 21, 2012, 09:56:50
A plan of the Barracks from 1911:

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/Chatham%20Plans/ADM140-14846ChathamRNB1911.jpg)


cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on June 21, 2012, 11:24:14
Thanks for adding this, and your other plans cliveh :)
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on June 21, 2012, 16:25:30
Extracts from a programme for the 'Final Divisions' of HMS Pembroke on 3rd June 1983:


cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on October 22, 2012, 10:15:01
A few scans from a photo book published shortly after the barracks first opened:

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on November 13, 2012, 08:52:19
I have been contacted by a student at the University of Greenwich requesting some help for a project he's undertaking on the Barracks site.

On rossco's plan of the barrack blocks in this topic:
http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=14107.0

You can just see a narrow building between the two blocks marked as 'Anson' & 'Nelson'. This building is marked as 'Classrooms for Artificer Apprentices'. This building does not appear on my 1911 Plan of the Barracks posted earlier in this thread but it does appear on a 1927 plan of the area. The building is no longer there and is now just a car park.

Am i right in thinking that part of the building in question is the one I've circled in red in the postcard below (sorry it's not very clear). Also if it wasn't there in 1911 does anyone please know when it was built and when it was demolished?

My student contact will also be undertaking a GPR (Ground penetrating radar) survey of the site to map the buildings foundations.

Any help we can give him would be much appreciated.

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: bromptonboy on November 13, 2012, 11:45:12
It would appear that Artificer training was a part of the new HMS Pembroke from the day it was built using workshops in the Dockyard for training. The idea for a specialised department to train engineers for an increasingly mechanised navy came from the First Sea Lord Admiral Sir John Fisher. By early 1903 he had become concerned that the Imperial German Navy represented a threat to the interests of the Royal Navy, which might be in danger of being overtaken in seagoing technical expertise. He initiated a programme whereby engineers and artificers could be trained for service in the navy, and within two years the navy had established training centres in the major naval bases of Chatham, Plymouth and Portsmouth. In 1930 all Artificer training was centralised at Chatham and located ashore in the former Naval Detention Barracks, renamed as Fisgard Block, on the hill just behind the main Pembroke Barracks. It remained there until 1939 when the threat of enemy bombing saw its relocation to Torpoint never to return.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on November 13, 2012, 15:17:10
It would appear that Artificer training was a part of the new HMS Pembroke ...

Thanks brompton boy - I'll pass that on - it'll be good background information for him.

If anyone has any further information on the building in question itself, I'd be pleased to hear about it.

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Leofwine on February 09, 2013, 00:37:01
Gloucester Citizen - Saturday 27 December 1902

NEW NAVAL BARRACKS AT CHATHAM.
The extensive naval barracks at Chatham, which have been erected and furnished at a cost of something like half a million sterling, are expected to be ready for occupation early in the New Year. The buildings are situated in a district which was formerly known as "Tom-all-alone's," and the works involved the removal of the old convict prison and the torpedo factory in order to provide an adequate site. Both the seamen's and officers' quarters are arranged in blocks, and a residence for the captain commanding and an infirmary will be added later on, and will form the subject for separate contracts. The Admiralty are anxious to bring the barracks into use as expeditiously as possible, as the accommodation on the naval depot ships is altogether insufficient for the 3,000 to 5,000 men usually quartered there.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 12, 2013, 21:30:10
Was there accomodation blocks for WRENS at Pembroke? Would they have used the same Mess facilities as the men? Particularly interested in the post-WWII period

Thanks in anticipation

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Lyn L on February 12, 2013, 21:55:26
Spoke to hubby, he said the Wrens were kept completely separate from men , he's not sure now but thinks it could have been Blake or Collingwood block , but thinks it was next to the Wardroom.
If a Wren should come back on her own, she was always escorted back to the block. It's been a good few years now he left the RN in 1969.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Leofwine on February 13, 2013, 04:19:32
The WRENS Barracks were just inside the gates at Medway Road. A few concrete huts erected during WW2, with a two storey air-raid shelter close by. If you go into the Lower Lines Park (aka Admiral's Gardens) from the Medway Road gate they would have been on the grassy bank in front of you. (There is an interpretation board on the path there with some pictures and details if you visit).
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 13, 2013, 07:11:42
Thanks Leofwine & Lyn L

Would the Medway Road Barracks still have been in use by the WRNS in the late 1950's or would they have moved into Pembroke by then?

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Lyn L on February 13, 2013, 09:15:30
Hubby was in HMS Pembroke at times during the 60s, so I imagine that's what he's recalling. He finished his time on Small Craft Refitting Group.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: bromptonboy on February 13, 2013, 09:20:03
I think the Wrens were billeted in what was called East Camp. This was a hutted camp located in the vicinity of what is today the Kelly Drive area. The old Chatham News used to publish photos each year of the Wrens stirring the Christmas Pud mix.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: peterchall on February 13, 2013, 10:48:33
Hoping this is not off-topic, but may be of interest. During WW2 WRNS were billeted in the large houses in Watts Avenue, Rochester, on the left going from Maidstone Road. They occupied at least 2 of the houses, maybe more. Presumably they worked in the dockyard, barracks etc.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 13, 2013, 12:23:10
Hoping this is not off-topic, but may be of interest. During WW2 WRNS were billeted in the large houses in Watts Avenue, Rochester, on the left going from Maidstone Road. They occupied at least 2 of the houses, maybe more. Presumably they worked in the dockyard, barracks etc.

Thanks peterchall - I recently saw something on the internet mentioning that too.

Sorry I should've been more specific with my request - I'm trying to identify where a member of the WRNS Reserve who was re-called to Chatham to serve in a NATO excersise in the late 50's may have been accommodated? The time period involved would've been about 3-4 weeks.

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 18, 2013, 09:53:46
A few photos from a recent visit:

The Drill Shed
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/HMS%20Pembroke/IMG_5687HMSPembroke-DrillShed_zps397b97c4.jpg)

The Swimming Pool Building
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/HMS%20Pembroke/IMG_5684HMSPembroke-SwimmingPool_zps46afb1b1.jpg)

The Gymnasium
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/HMS%20Pembroke/IMG_5681HMSPembroke-Gymnasium_zps2febe31b.jpg)

The Gunnery School
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/HMS%20Pembroke/IMG_5679HMSPembroke-GunnerySchool_zps999dc3d0.jpg)


cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 25, 2013, 10:03:07
I had a very good walk around here yesterday. It was nice and quiet without the teeming hordes of students! I took over 100 photos but I won't bore you with them all! Just a few of the buildings that haven't featured so far on this thread:

Warrant Officers' Mess
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/IMG_8260HMSPembroke-WarrantOfficersMess_zps722ee165.jpg)

The Canteen
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/IMG_8252HMSPembroke-Canteen_zps94124c4b.jpg)

The Offices
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/IMG_8300HMSPembroke-Offices_zps6ece181e.jpg)

Stores
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/IMG_8298HMSPembroke-Stores_zps8e57ad6b.jpg)

Commodore's House
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/IMG_8320HMSPembroke-CommodoresHouse_zpsdfb3e272.jpg)

Stables
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/IMG_8321HMSPembroke-Stables_zpsa6adac47.jpg)


cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 25, 2013, 10:41:43
Does anyone have any idea why 'Duncan' & 'Hawke' barrack blocks were demolished whilst all the others were preserved? Were there structural problems with them or were they just demolished to make way for the new buildings?

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: grandarog on April 14, 2013, 09:53:12
Postcard from around 1908.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on April 22, 2013, 14:51:25
This postcard is from the 'Gale & Polden' series of the Barracks from the early 1900's. Does anyone please have any idea where the photo was taken?

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: bromptonboy on April 22, 2013, 16:30:58
It looks like it is on the outside of the ditch on the Lower Lines where the old Admiralty House used to be. That looks like theGillingham end of the dockyard in the background.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on April 22, 2013, 16:47:12
It looks like it is on the outside of the ditch on the Lower Lines where the old Admiralty House used to be. That looks like theGillingham end of the dockyard in the background.

Thanks bromptonboy!  :)

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on August 13, 2013, 08:39:53
This postcard from the early 1900's shows the road leading up from the Main Gate to the Barrack Blocks flanked by two ships' figureheads. I know the one on the left is from the battleship Royal Adelaide but does anyone please know the origin of the one on the right?

Also does anyone know what happened to the figureheads after the Barracks closed?

cliveh




Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on August 13, 2013, 11:40:09
They may have been moved to the "museum" covered slip in the dockyard, which caught fire.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on August 13, 2013, 14:10:01
They may have been moved to the "museum" covered slip in the dockyard, which caught fire.

Thanks kyn - you were right  - its Britannia!

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on August 13, 2013, 14:19:56
The plinth can still be found by the fence.  It would be nice to see it replaced one day :)
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on August 30, 2013, 15:04:16
I think there were three of these bells sited on plinths along the Terrace wall overlooking the Parade Ground at Pembroke. Does anyone please know:
a) Their purpose?
b) Were they original Ships Bells from vessels named HMS Pembroke?
c) What happened to them after the Barracks closed?

Thanks

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Longpockets on August 30, 2013, 19:18:22
The purpose of the bell was to inform the ship's company of the time. This explains it better than I can.

http://www.historicnavalfiction.com/general-hnf-info/naval-facts/the-watch-system

I hope this helps.

Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: Lutonman on August 30, 2013, 19:25:44
When I did some work in HMS Pembroke in the mid 70's, I do remember that we had to stop work and stand up for a short while, in order to maintain silence. We were laying gas pipes at the time over one of the arches near the parade ground. Being a young gas man we weren't told why but just obeyed!

Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on October 07, 2013, 09:03:14
A glimpse of the swimming pool and room within the building.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on October 07, 2013, 15:03:36
I can't make out what that is on the floor in that second photo. It looks like its the base for something but what?

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on October 07, 2013, 15:40:06
Wooden floor?

The pipe work etc is round the other side.  I thought this was changing rooms but they were alongside the pool.  There is also an office next door, so this room doesn't seem to have a purpose!
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on October 07, 2013, 16:21:14
Yes of course its for a floor! Trust me to miss the obvious!  :)


cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on October 07, 2013, 16:41:33
 :)  Still don't know what the room was for though!
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on October 07, 2013, 16:48:39
Just found it on my 1911 Plan - it's a skittle alley!!!  :)

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on October 07, 2013, 16:57:18
 :)  I think there is a photo of it somewhere on here!
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on October 07, 2013, 18:11:21
Yes and I posted it!!!  :)

Here it is again:

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on October 07, 2013, 18:31:15
 :)  Excellent!
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on February 05, 2014, 17:31:35
Admiralty boundary edged red.
Site of barracks edged dotted red.  Area 42A. 0R. 30P.

Accommodation

Captain’s House – 1
Officers Quarters:
Senior Officers – 66
Junior Officers – 46
Servants – 8
Warrant Officers – 84
Chief Petty Officers & Similar Ratings – 388
1st & 2nd Class Petty Officers – 520
Non-Commissioned Officers Marines – 52
Seamen & Stokers – 3360
Marines – 336
Domestics – 36

Total - 4897

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Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: bromptonboy on February 05, 2014, 17:58:10
Great plan Kyn. Interesting to see the naval barracks had its own railway siding off the dockyard line.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on February 05, 2014, 18:53:06
So it did, I hadn't noticed that.  Stores deliveries maybe?
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 10, 2014, 21:22:46
Great plan Kyn. Interesting to see the naval barracks had its own railway siding off the dockyard line.

If its that siding in the last photo it runs into the Receiving Store in the Dockyard and looks to be outside the Barrack boundary line. It still probably handled stores for the Barracks being sited very close to the Barracks' Dockyard Gate.

What's the date of this plan please Kyn?

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on February 10, 2014, 21:44:29
1904 I believe, the plans that followed were the proposal for the Church so they are very early.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 10, 2014, 22:02:06
Thank-you!  :)

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Post by: bromptonboy on February 10, 2014, 22:42:39
Clive, I think you are looking at the wrong siding. The one going inside the barracks boundary is the lower dead-end spur.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on February 10, 2014, 22:55:04
Was the Cookery School in the barracks? I have an old picture in one of my books that says "Entrance to the Cookery School", and it shows a section of railway line near a single storey wooden building. I'm not sure if the picture was taken in, or near, the barracks, or in the dockyard.
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 11, 2014, 07:27:48
Clive, I think you are looking at the wrong siding. The one going inside the barracks boundary is the lower dead-end spur.

Yes, of course, my apologies bromptonboy, I somehow managed to miss that!!!

cliveh
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: kyn on February 11, 2014, 09:49:54
From the same set of plans...
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Post by: History buff on February 11, 2014, 15:48:55
I have heard that peacocks were kept on the lawn in front of the Officers' Mess buildings until moved in 1982 along with much else.   Does anyone remember them and possibly be able to fill me in on their history? A frivolous question I realise but interesting. I have trawled the web but have only found one small reference to them.   

I am a new member and find your site fascinating.  Many thanks to all.

History buff
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: bromptonboy on February 12, 2014, 07:48:44
Kyn, I think your latest set of plans posted show the new buildings for the Gunnery School which was built at the end of Central Avenue and backing on to the C in C's residence - but not too close!
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on February 28, 2014, 15:26:09
1960's Aerial View of the Barracks:

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg182/cliveinkent/RNB-Aerial1960s_zps11333105.jpg) (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/cliveinkent/media/RNB-Aerial1960s_zps11333105.jpg.html)

cliveh
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Post by: Maid of Kent on November 05, 2014, 14:05:07
Have come to this via Internet because I was researching HMS Pembroke, (never connecting it with the Pembroke 'Gate' at Chatham) having yesterday just found my husband's uncle Stanley's Naval records in which Pembroke & P1 & P 2 were mentioned. One mentions Pembroke 2 (Sportive) (Feb-Nov 1927) can any one give an explanation please. I also see one of the buildings were called Nelson. I have a photo of him with his cap band HMS Lord Nelson so I assumed he was on board that ship (in 1913) and presume it wouldnt have been 'Nelson' at Pembroke Chatham. Am I right?. In a photo taken of him in May 1919 when he was on the Abercrombie he has a topedo, with star above and below insignia on right arm. At that point he came back to Pembroke, a total of 12 times between 1913 & 1928. He was still in the Navy in 1933 but have no records.This probably is the reason why he settled in Chatham and later Hartlip

Although this is off topic, may I take the opportunity to say what an excellent and informative site Kent History Forum is - not only for the 'locals wanting to know about their area but for others needing to do research on things Kentish but particularly on the Medway area. I have not come across your equal yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Bonfirebrian on July 14, 2015, 20:29:39
I have just visited Pembroke for the first time in 38 years. Of course, it's now the Medway Campus but it's nice to see many of the old blocks still in use. Walking in from the Main Gate there is the old Officers Blocks, Blake Block, Nelson Block, Anson Block and Grenville Block. Could anyone tell me the names of the other two blocks that have now gone? I was there '67 doing my SA’s course and ’78 doing my POSA’s course. I remember the end block had the NAAFI shop and the dance hall (for want of better words) but have totally forgotten the names of the two missing blocks.
Would appreciate any help on this, if you would, please.
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Post by: grandarog on July 14, 2015, 21:14:29
'Anson',     'Blake',      'Drake',    'Grenville',     'Hawke'      'Nelson'.

 :) :) :)
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Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on November 05, 2015, 22:27:56
Christmas pudding.
November 1940. Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Tradition at the barracks is that the officer in charge of messing should pour out the rum for the Christmas pudding.
Another tradition decrees that Chief Cook at the barracks should be chaired by seamen with puddings.

© IWM (A 2241) The Christmas pudding is being mixed by the Chief Cook, and the Paymaster Commander in charge of messing at the barracks, pours out the rum. 2,400 lbs of Christmas pudding were made.

© IWM (A 2243) Chief Cook Saunders with three of his puddings, is chaired by cheering seamen.
 
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: GP on November 06, 2015, 20:56:14
I have seen recently that the HMS Pembroke swimming pool, which has been fenced off and unused for many years, is now undergoing building work. Not sure if will be still used as a swimming pool., Anyone know what the university are doing with it?
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: merc on November 07, 2015, 14:36:32
I have seen recently that the HMS Pembroke swimming pool, which has been fenced off and unused for many years, is now undergoing building work. Not sure if will be still used as a swimming pool., Anyone know what the university are doing with it?

The old swimming pool and skittles alley building is being converted into a Student Union Hub, GP.

https://www.gkunions.co.uk/studenthub/
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on April 13, 2016, 08:41:44
Some recent shots of the Wardroom:

cliveh
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Post by: conan on April 13, 2016, 15:21:47
I would have thought that the Navy would have put the queens E on the crest above the fireplace on straight  :)
Title: Re: HMS Pembroke, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Post by: cliveh on April 13, 2016, 15:53:12
I think the 'ER' in this case was King Edward VII who was on the Throne when the Barracks were built in 1901 :) (still should have put it on straight though!)

cliveh