Waterbodies & Maritime => Wrecks & Disasters => Topic started by: Paul on June 29, 2008, 07:28:11

Title: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on June 29, 2008, 07:28:11
                                                                                          Tragedy at Leysdown

On 4th of August, 1912, a tragedy occurred off Leysdown, Isle of Sheppey. Nine Sea Scouts died when their training Vessel, a 32ft ex-naval cutter, was hit by a sudden squall and capsized.
All but one of the boys were from the 2nd Walworth Scout Troop.
The Group were on their way to a week`s camp at Leysdown.
The boat was 2 miles out and turning for shore with 23 Sea Scouts, the Scout Master and 5 helpers on board when the squall hit and the boys were thrown into the water.
Only one of the boys was a non-swimmer otherwise loss of life may have been more.
The Coastguard were assisted by two civillians in the rescue that saved the rest of the crew.

The Boys who died were:

William Beckham, 2, Patrol leader (a distant relative of David Beckham of football fame).
Albert Dack, 11
Noel Filmer, 14
Thompson Filmer, 12
Harry Gwynn, 13. Patrol Leader
Percy Huxford, 12
James Skipsey, 12
Edward Smith, 11
Frank Masters, 14, helper from the training Ship Arethusa

William Beckham had two brothers in the boat and they were saved. David Beckham might not be here if they weren`t
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A postcard issued to commemorate the event shows the five Coastguards and two Civillians.
A Memorial was erected in 1914 at Nunhead Cemetery.
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In 1969 the Statue from the Memorial was stolen and Police believe that it had been melted down for scrap, value 40.  After this the Memorial was vandalised.
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All that`s left of the original Memorial Brass plaque reads " This base is all that remains of the original memorial"
In 1992 a new Memorial was erected and is still there.

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More details here http://www.scouting.milestones.btinternet.co.uk/seascouts.htm

Even when I`m not on Sheppey I can find interesting things in my local cemetery.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: kyn on July 01, 2008, 13:14:01
Had a little trip to Leysdown to get pictures of the War graves there and came across this:

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A memorial to commemorate the Scouts of The 2nd Walworth Troop Drowned off Leysdown, Isle of Sheppey on 4th August, 1912.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on July 15, 2008, 22:31:54
Found this taken at Nunhead Cemetery.
Out of an old Penny paper, not too good and doesn't clean up very well.
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Title: Re: Leysdown tradegy
Post by: kyn on August 11, 2008, 15:12:41
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Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: kyn on August 10, 2009, 15:38:39
Wednesday 7th August 1912

Boy Scout Disaster

Torpedo- Boat to bring the bodies to London
Mr. Churchill, First Lord of the Admiralty, has decided to send a torpedo-boat to Leysdown to convey to London the bodies of the Boy Scouts who were drowned off the Isle of Sheppey on Sunday.  The bodies will be taken out to the torpedo-boat by the Coastguard gig which rescued Scoutmaster Marsh and the other survivors.
Coastguards under Chief Petty Officer Streeter and ten Scouts scoured the flats between Warden Point and Shellness yesterday for the body of Percy Huxford, but without success.  The Board of Trade have decided to provide life-saving apparatus for use on the Sheppey coast, and it will be stationed at Leysdown.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: kyn on December 08, 2009, 19:06:01
Poverty Bay Herald - 6th August 1912

London, August 5

The Dulwich Scouts' mission is encamping at Sheerness.  A cutter containing 23 lads and five adults capsized, and nine of the boys were drowned.
Coastguardsmen rowed two miles and picked up the survivors.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on July 20, 2010, 22:34:28
Just found a pic of the Funeral on it's way to Nunhead Cemetery.
Taken in Rye Lane, Peckham.

(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm223/Paulwp/Scoutfuneral600x422.jpg)
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: kyn on July 21, 2010, 11:04:36
Thanks for adding this Paul  :)
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: busyglen on July 29, 2010, 18:55:51
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~puxty/scouts_disaster.htm

I don't know if I am allowed to show this link here, but I have a report on this on my website.

Please delete if inappropriate.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: kyn on January 04, 2011, 14:52:25
A while ago I was contacted by someone who had this Memorial edition of the Daily Mirror covering the tragedy, she wanted everyone who uses the forum to be able to have access to it.  I am adding the photo's large but it may still be difficult to read unfortunately, try to save the picture to your computer and enlarge it, hopefully it will work.

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Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: kyn on January 04, 2011, 17:52:40
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Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on January 04, 2011, 19:08:32
Great stuff :)
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: kyn on January 25, 2011, 13:53:24
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Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on October 27, 2011, 12:55:13
I've recently been informed that the recovered bodies were laid out in what is now the Seahorse?
Was the building there in 1912 and could it be possible instead of the Coastguard station?

Or just another story? .....
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: HERB COLLECTOR on October 30, 2011, 01:37:13
The Leysdown Tragedy Centenary.

"In 2012, the friends of Nunhead cemetery, St Johns Walworth, Southwark council and surviving relatives, plan to commemorate this tragedy in its centenary year."

"We hope to have a service here in the chapel and at the graveside where the boys are buried. It was one of the biggest funerals ever seen in south London."
"The memorial in Leysdown is in a cemetery at the top of a hill overlooking where the accident happened. It would be wonderful if we could arrange some sort of ceremony there next year as well."   Rex Batton of the Friends of Nunhead Cemetery.

For contact address see-http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=67764 (http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=67764)
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: busyglen on October 30, 2011, 11:13:51
I've recently been informed that the recovered bodies were laid out in what is now the Seahorse?
Was the building there in 1912 and could it be possible instead of the Coastguard station?

Or just another story? .....

They were laid out in the Leysdown Coastguard Station Paul.  If you click on the link on my post further up this page, the information came from The Times.  The article from the Daily Mirror above, also mentions that they were transferred to the ship from Leysdown Coastguard Station.

Hope that helps.  :)
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on October 30, 2011, 11:58:08
Thanks :)
I looked and the building wasn`t there in 1912 so it can`t be true.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: smiffar on April 16, 2012, 19:09:04
Hi! I`m new to this site, and related to coastguard Oliver Sharp, my mum's maiden name was Sharp and she told me about this sad event.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: busyglen on April 17, 2012, 20:19:03
Welcome to the forum smiffar.  Yes it was a very sad event wasn't it?
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: smiffar on April 19, 2012, 12:33:25
I`m going to the island later in the year as I still have a lot of family there, and will be laying flowers at the memorial in Leysdown for the boys from us as Oliver's family, he was my great grandad. I and the rest of the family are incredibly proud of him and the other men for what they did. Whatever became of the boy Schofield he nursed I wonder???
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: smiffar on April 20, 2012, 22:54:14
I wonder, does anyone on here know where the accident happened? I have been told before it was Warden Point, outside Sea Horse and also been told, outside the coastguard houses??? Which is right if any, and where were the coastguard houses please? thanks.
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: busyglen on April 21, 2012, 19:17:53
There are several places on the forum I think that have some details, but see if this link helps.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~puxty/scouts_disaster.htm
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on February 09, 2013, 20:44:51
Some footage of the Funeral http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM-dU3r3__A&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: busyglen on February 10, 2013, 11:51:13
Thanks for that Paul.  Shame the Archives name covered a lot of it. :(
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: mikeA on February 03, 2014, 20:17:57
Hi! I`m new to this site, and related to coastguard Oliver Sharp, my mum's maiden name was Sharp and she told me about this sad event.
Hi Smiffar, have just found this site , if you still read the comments Oliver Sharp probably saved my Grandad Patrick Taylor who was on the boat. Sydney Marsh the scoutmaster became my mothers Godfather. This family would love to know where his last resting place is.
Mike A
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: Paul on July 13, 2015, 11:16:50
This has been found... :)
Title: Re: The Leysdown Tragedy.
Post by: conan on July 13, 2015, 12:47:47
I wonder, does anyone on here know where the accident happened? I have been told before it was Warden Point, outside Sea Horse and also been told, outside the coastguard houses??? Which is right if any, and where were the coastguard houses please? thanks.

The 1906 OS map shows Where the coastgaurd was based

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