Military => Air Raids => Topic started by: Megapack162 on September 10, 2010, 20:27:56

Title: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Megapack162 on September 10, 2010, 20:27:56
Can anyone shed any further light on the article that appeared in Medway Messenger's "The way we were" on Friday 20th August 2010?

The main article reports that a V2 rocket struck in Rede Court road during "late 1944" but I've not been able to find any information about this event. It's hard to spot the obvious signs of a strike, such as sudden changes in house styles as Rede Court road is made up of lots of individual builds apart from the first 6 semis on the north side of the road by Salters Cross itself.

Cheers.
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: afsrochester on September 13, 2010, 09:48:18
Hello Megapack162.

From Front Line County by Andrew Rootes.

18/2/45        2 killed, 4 seriously injured, 18 slightly hurt. Casualties shown as a result of a Rocket Attack.

From CWWC.  Civilian War Dead Rochester Municipal Borough.

Isabella Claddish 75, injured at Rede Court Road 18/2/45, died 22/2/45 died in St. Barts Hospital.
Charles Victor Huckstepp, 19, injured at Rede Court Garage, died in St. Bart's Hospital the same day.

The information I had been given was that a V2 landed somewhere between the old Winget's Sports Gr
ound and Rede Court Road, but there appear to be conflicting accounts, as so often happens in incidents like this.

Both my parents lived in Strood during the War, so I'll see if they can throw anymore light on the subject.
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: rossco on September 13, 2010, 12:23:32
Says below a V2 landed in Strood in feb 1945. Looking on the CWGC website, theres the following listing for a civilian casualty on the same day at Rede Court garage:

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=3116484 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=3116484)

(edit - just noticed I posted the same info as asfrochester)

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk27/rossinnit/DSC00134.jpg)
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Leofwine on September 13, 2010, 16:33:09
I'm now intrigued by why a V-2 hit Strood. I can understand some locals wanting to drop a bomb on Strood, but I doubt Hitler would, certainly not an almost random residential area. I wonder if it was a mis-calibrated one aimed somewhere else? (Dartford or Gravesend area perhaps?)
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: afsrochester on September 13, 2010, 16:44:59

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I wonder if it was a mis-calibrated one aimed somewhere else? (Dartford or Gravesend area perhaps?)

I would think that is more than likely the case, as London was considered to be the target that they were aiming for.
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: afsrochester on September 13, 2010, 18:18:57
I've just spoken to Mum. She remembers the incident being on a Sunday about mid-day and believes that the V2 actually hit a house in Rede Court Road.

Leofwine; I've got some notes on the V2  somewhere! I'll try and find them and see what I can turn up. I know a mate mentioned Antwerp, as well. I'll check with him.

Thanks Leofwine. I cant' believe I missed Antwerp on your list. Going daft in my old age!
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Leofwine on September 17, 2010, 02:19:21
A V-Weapon bomb map, made by plotters at Biggin Hill. Definitely shows how much more concentrated the V-2 attacks were. Also shows the one that fell on Strood - looks like it was the only one to fall in Medway.

Map Compiled at the End of the War Showing V-2 Impacts. It shows how the mis-calibration the  information our double agents sent worked to shift the hits generally eastwards protecting a large part of central London at the cost of the Eastern Suburbs.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/4997541198_cc799855ae_b.jpg)

(Larger versions can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/22124479@N03/4997541198/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: TWWW on May 28, 2011, 09:28:19
Hi Megapack - have only just joined the forum so this is my first reply. If you look at the Messenger The Way We Were pages this coming Friday you will see a map drawn up by the deputy head of the Civil Defence for the old Strood RDC. It indicates a V1 in the vicinity of Rede Court. I am pretty sure there is a picture of the damage in the KM Archive - I'll look it out.

Regards TWWW
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Megapack162 on May 28, 2011, 15:50:54
Hi Megapack - have only just joined the forum so this is my first reply. If you look at the Messenger The Way We Were pages this coming Friday you will see a map drawn up by the deputy head of the Civil Defence for the old Strood RDC. It indicates a V1 in the vicinity of Rede Court. I am pretty sure there is a picture of the damage in the KM Archive - I'll look it out.

Regards TWWW

Hi TWWW,
I'll keep an eye out for it falling on my doormat Friday afternoon and thanks for the heads up about the archives, there must be more about it somewhere.

From the map it looks to be the only one to hit a built up part of Medway unless the Hoo Peninsula hits were unfortunate enough to hit any of the many villages and hamlets dotted over it?

Cheers Megapack162.
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Paul on May 28, 2011, 18:34:16
HiYa TWWW Welcome to the KHF :)
Was It a V1 or a V2 ?
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: seafordpete on May 29, 2011, 10:53:41
By that date it has to be a V2- out of range of V1s  as the front line was into Germany by then
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Megapack162 on May 29, 2011, 12:25:54
The "The Way We Were" article that I highlighted at the start of this topic definitely states that it was a V2 and the maps that Leofwine has posted here and in the V1 and V2  hits on Kent (general) in "Air Raids" back this up.

I had a closer look at the semi-detached houses at the Salters Cross end of Rede Court Road opposite the petrol station recently, the last 2 pairs of semis have a very different external chimmney arrangement with the westernmost house being totally different again and there are other slight differences too.

Before I read that article and had a closer look at the houses, I'd never have noticed the differences, I'll try to take a few photos and post them later...
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Guest on May 29, 2011, 15:33:22
This, I assume, is the V2 mentioned in Bob Ogley's Doodlebugs and Rockets as having fallen on Rochester [sic] at 12.01 on 18/2/45. It seems that by this time the guidance mechanisms were being set rather hurriedly and/or carelessly: other V2s that month were recorded as having fallen in the sea off Clacton (3) and in the sea off Folkestone - both quite a way from London...
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Leofwine on May 29, 2011, 17:57:24
The "The Way We Were" article that I highlighted at the start of this topic definitely states that it was a V2 and the maps that Leofwine has posted here and in the V1 and V2  hits on Kent (general) in "Air Raids" back this up.

I had a closer look at the semi-detached houses at the Salters Cross end of Rede Court Road opposite the petrol station recently, the last 2 pairs of semis have a very different external chimmney arrangement with the westernmost house being totally different again and there are other slight differences too.

Before I read that article and had a closer look at the houses, I'd never have noticed the differences, I'll try to take a few photos and post them later...

When I took my father up to Bexleyheath last year to look at his childhood haunts he showed me several places that had been destroyed by bombing & V-waepons, and the rebuilds were very hard to spot, often very small such as chimney arrangement, slight differences on window/door placements, etc. It seems that when rebuilding destroyed houses the often tried to keep the new builds as close as possible to existing ones. My father tells me that in the Bexley heath case many of the builders were still in the area when the war started, so they were often the ones who did the rebuilds. I wonder if this was the case in Strood too?
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Paul on May 31, 2011, 18:18:44
Found this.

Feb. 18, (11.57 hours) - Batt. 1./485 (Art. Reg. 1./902), Den Haag, Statenkwartier, V-2 rocket fired, impacted Rochester, Kent. 1 Dead, 22 injured.
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Lutonman on August 25, 2011, 21:37:40
Only just read this thread, I recall that my Aunt worked in a Cafe on the corner of Rede Court Road and was injured when a rocket dropped outside. She had gone to the back of the Cafe just before it hit. A soldier puller her out and she walked all the way back the Hartington Street in Chatham before being told by her sister (my Mum) to get the injury attended to.
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: peterchall on August 25, 2011, 22:00:22
Hi Lutonman,
Have you seen this thread, which seems to be running in parallel? The last few posts specifically mention the Salters Cross incident.
http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=7582.0
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Lutonman on August 26, 2011, 17:49:56
Thanks Peterchall
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: Megapack162 on September 09, 2011, 16:03:36
I finally got around to taking a picture showingthe differences between the original houses (2) and the rebuilt houses (1).

(http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/megapack162/KentHistoryForum/31082011613_noplates_annotated-1.jpg)

You can see how in the rebuilt houses the chimneys run up the outside of the walls (1) before arching together and continuing up to the chimney stack, whereas in the original houses the chimneys run up to the attic space independently before merging internally and exiting into stacks that are flush to the end walls.

These are about the only differences that are visible, there may be subtle differences internally or at the rear. The very last house has a single, central chimney running up the wall rather than ones from the front and back rooms.
Title: Re: V2 attack at Salters Cross, Strood
Post by: lutonman1 on February 06, 2018, 18:41:14
I remember hearing this V2 rocket coming down, I thought it was on a Sunday morning. I was at home in Chatham, when this loud explosion occurred. Then I heard the swoosh of it coming down, moments later. Something to do with the speed of sound.