News: “Over the graves of the Druids and under the wreck of Rome,
Rudely but surely they bedded the plinth of the days to come.
Behind the feet of the Legions and before the Norseman’s ire
Rudely but greatly begat they the framing of State and Shire
Rudely but deeply they laboured, and their labour stand till now.
If we trace on ancient headlands the twist of their eight-ox plough.”

-Rudyard Kipling
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Factories & Mills / Re: Faversham Gunpowder Works
« Last post by conan on Today at 00:07:34 »
Herb Collector,I'm intrigued as to why all of these reports come from Welsh newspapers Was Faversham gunpowder used in the South Wales Pits or was this just an early example of the use of the telegraph system that could speed news around the country?.With no disrespect to the poor souls who lives were lost in the explosions I really can't see what interest that an explosion in Kent would arouse in the valleys of Wales where mining tragedies were a fairly common occurrence with often a far greater loss of life.
Factories & Mills / Re: Faversham Gunpowder Works
« Last post by HERB COLLECTOR on Yesterday at 22:41:41 »
Dreadful Explosion at the Faversham Powder Works. 1867.
Four Men Killed.

On Monday afternoon, shortly before three o'clock, an explosion of a dreadful character occurred at the gunpowder works of Messrs. Hall and Son, situate at Faversham, by which four men lost their lives, and another was very severely injured. The explosion took place in a building called the "Mixing-house," in which powder undergoes almost the last process. It is situate at the "Oare Works" and in close proximity to it is another building in which is kept the saltpetre.
At the time of the sad occurrence there were five men engaged within the building, and all but one of them were instantly killed. The report of the explosion was not very loud, but the power was such as to render the building almost in an instant a mess of ruins, and under the debris the five men were buried. As soon as the explosion occurred all hands on the works rushed to the spot to render assistance, and the first thing to which their attention was directed was that of extracting the bodies of the unfortunate men from under the black, and in some places burning ruins.

The first one discovered was that of Louis Highsted, a man between fifty and sixty years of age, who was found to be living, but frightfully charred and injured. He was immediately removed to his home at Oare, and hopes are entertained of his recovery. Next the workmen came to the bodies of two men, viz., Mark Coe and George Love, who were found under a large quantity of debris. Both of them were dead, and presented frightful spectacles, their clothes having been literally burnt from off them, and their bodies were a black, burnt, and charred mass. They were removed to a building at another part of the works. After a lapse of about half an hour another body, that of Henry Adey, and a few minutes subsequently another, that of George Back, were discovered, both corpses horribly disfigured. Mark Coe was about 35 years of age, a married man, and leaves a large family of children. He resided at the Brents, near Faversham. George Love was of about the same age, also married, and leaves a widow and two children. He resided at the parish of Luddenham. Henry Adey was a single man, about 25 years of age, and resided at Osprings. George Back was a youth of 18, living at Oare.

As soon as news of the explosion had reached this town, two medical men, Mr. W. N. Spong and Mr. Quinton (assistant to Dr. Spyers), proceeded to the scene of the disaster (the first to arrive being Mr. Spong), who rendered what service he could. Subsequently another surgeon, Mr. Garraway, also arrived. As speedily as possible three engines were brought to play upon the burning timber, one of which belonged to the works, and the other two were those of the Kent and Norwich Offices, stationed at Faversham. The bodies of the unfortunate deceased now await an inquest, which will probably be opened to-morrow.

     From The Brecon County Times, Saturday April 6, 1867.
Work Vehicles / Re: Sentinel S4
« Last post by Sentinel S4 on Yesterday at 22:10:31 »
This is the Waggon that my Father owned in the late 1950's, I meant to put that up earlier but forgot. She is still with us, privatee address in Hertfordshire as far as I know, but is not likely to be steamed for many years to come. If I owned her she would be fit and found.......

I am producing a series of booklets on the families of Deal and Walmer - one for each family. not a history of the family but a record of all Marriages, Baptisms and Burials from when records began in the 1560's or so, the idea being to assist those constructing family trees.
The records do not come from the internet as these are often incorrect, but are taken from written records of the time and are, therefore, as near to being accurate as it is possible to get.
There are believed to have been members of the Eastes family in Deal as early as the 15th century but the first written record is in St Mary's, Walmer in 1561 and the second in St Leonard's, Deal in the same year.
A member of the family sailed from Sandwich to America where a thriving community of Eastes now live.

Booklets cost £10 each inc P&P and can be seen on my website

Chatham Dockyard / Re: Health and Safety at Chatham Dockyard, 1945 to 1984
« Last post by Lyn L on Yesterday at 15:00:02 »
Thanks DTT, maybe I won't read to the end then. So many people affected locally ,  two more I know of who died really painful deaths with Mesothelioma ( a friend and ex B --in-L ) and both in their 50s . Thanks for the heads up !  Such a shame that more help wasn't given , not just in the Yard or MOD either. The last two instances DID get compensation but it doesn't make up for loss of life.
 Very sad reading.

You may not want to read to the end, I have just finished (over lunch time), the radation section and it makes upsetting reading the casualness with the yard dealt with matters. 

Its a sobering and well written document, but perhaps a little close to home for some.
Chatham Dockyard / Re: Health and Safety at Chatham Dockyard, 1945 to 1984
« Last post by Lyn L on Yesterday at 13:23:45 »
I haven't read it all yet, but the number of people suffering Asbestos  and Mesothelioma related illnesses is a bit startling. My late Bob was in the RN for 9 years, at a time when RN ships were using hammocks strung over asbestos covered pipes etc. He was found to have asbestos plaques on one lung , but did end up with COPD and a rare TB, years of smoking didn't help but they nearly all did smoke in those days. He left the RN in 1969  no pension at all either, things changed in 1975 for pensions. Too late for him and others . I also had a cousin who sadly died from Mesothelioma ALSO RN. Bob was really pleased when proper bunks were installed in each mess on board the various ships he was on.
I'll carry on reading the rest later.
News / Tudor Shipwreck Found at Tankerton Beach
« Last post by HERB COLLECTOR on Yesterday at 12:59:17 »
An "incredible" Tudor shipwreck, found on Kent mudflats by a local history and archaeology group, will be protected.
Timescapes discovered the wreck at Tankerton Beach, Whitstable, while hunting for World War Two pillboxes.
The timbers, dating from the 16th century, protuded out of the sand.
More photos @
‘We suffered in silence’: Health and Safety at Chatham Dockyard, 1945 to 1984.
Evaluating the causes and management of occupational hazards relating especially to asbestos, ionising radiation and masculinity
by Emma Taaffe, BA (Hons), MA  April 2013

An excellent thesis which covers H&S in Chatham Dockyard.  It poses the question (among others) as to what part masculinity and peer pressure drove poor working practices.    It has detailed reports of the Caisson disaster, the Slip 2 fire and many other events, often with photos or drawings.

A recommended read if you are interested in the dockyard at Chatham.
Drinking Establishments & Hotels / Re: The Mast and The Shant
« Last post by filmer01 on July 15, 2018, 21:57:57 »
The Prince of Wales at East Sutton was known locally as The Shant. It burnt down (early 2000s?) and my younger son and his friend had the fun of being nightwatchmen for the site from the house at the back of the plot.
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