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Offline Robin

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Re: Drop Redoubt, Dover, ROC post
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 16:42:57 »
"On Saturday, 18 Apr 42, the force moved to DOVER by M.T., arriving about midnight. Here they were quartered in DROP REDOUBT, an old (and dirty) moated work on the WESTERN HEIGHTS. The whole force, including Captain then Lieutenant Ensor himself, was locked in here and not permitted to go out. There was, however, one  loophole in the system of security, as there was an Observer Corps post on the roof of the Redoubt, and its personnel were allowed to come and go. It was reported that people in DOVER were heard talking about Canadians having arrived to take part in a raid; and Captain Ensor believes that this was the only possible source of the information."

It looks like the ROC personnel rather blew the gaff on the operation!

I suppose that one could say that the ROC were living up to their motto, 'Forewarned is Forearmed'.

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Re: Drop Redoubt, Dover, ROC post
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 12:28:46 »
Pleasure. Well there is a comprehensive list of posts in Derek Wood's "Attack Warning Red" but the specific geographical locations were deliberately left off. When the book was written some of the posts were still classified and there was worry about CND disruption. The exact location of the WW2 Dover post was not recorded and no-one seemed to know exactly where it was but when I emailed the photos to some ROC experts earlier in the year, they were very pleased and agreed the 'missing' Dover post had ben identified.

This post does have one contemporary wartime mention that I have found. From April 18th-22nd 1942, 100 men of 4 Commando and another 100 men of the Canadian Carleton & York infantry regiment were stationed at the abandoned Drop Redoubt as a base prior to a raid on a searchlight at Hardelot near Boulogne. Operation Abercrombie it was called - you'll find the reference in Appendix A of the official Canadian report, that of Captain Jack Ensor:
 
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/his/rep-rap/doc/cmhq/cmhq081.pdf
 
"On Saturday, 18 Apr 42, the force moved to DOVER by M.T., arriving about midnight. Here they were quartered in DROP REDOUBT, an old (and dirty) moated work on the WESTERN HEIGHTS. The whole force, including Captain then Lieutenant Ensor himself, was locked in here and not permitted to go out. There was, however, one  loophole in the system of security, as there was an Observer Corps post on the roof of the Redoubt, and its personnel were allowed to come and go. It was reported that people in DOVER were heard talking about Canadians having arrived to take part in a raid; and Captain Ensor believes that this was the only possible source of the information."

It looks like the ROC personnel rather blew the gaff on the operation!

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Re: Drop Redoubt, Dover, ROC post
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 12:01:54 »
Thanks for the extra info Phil Eyden. The English Heritage report of 2001 has it down as an observation post with a mount for 'an optical instrument'  and an adjoining shelter. But that's it.
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Drop Redoubt, Dover, ROC post
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 11:10:58 »
A little known post is that located on top of the main Napoleonic magazine at the Drop Redoubt fort at the Western Heights, Dover. Experts have told me that this was designated 1/C3, i.e. No.1 Group (Maidstone), Cluster 'C', post 3. It was opened in January 1938 and would have been the prime Dover site during the Battle of Britain and for observation of the muzzle flashes of the long range German guns. It was redesignated 1/D2 in September 1942 and in 1943 was equipped with 'Totter' Snowflake rockets to warn fighters of enemy aircraft in the vicinity. The post was closed in September 1943 as a new post opened up at Dover Castle to replace it.





 

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