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Offline peterchall

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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2012, 13:13:21 »
To complete the record, the details of the Canterbury direction trains mentioned above, starting/terminating at Dover Harbour (DH), all via Swanley, were:

05:05 Victoria – 09:03 DH – 09:14 Dover Marine
10:40 Victoria – 13:20 DH
11:42 Herne Hill – 14:32 DH (Sat only)
11:40 Victoria – 15:13 DH
14:50 Canterbury East – 15:43 DH (Sat only)

19:05 DH – 19:51 Canterbury East (Sat only)
19:25 DH – 22:22 Victoria (Different timings on Sat)

A point of interest is the slow journey times, accounted for by most trains being ‘all-stations’ outside the London suburbs – there seemed little concept of ‘fast’ and ‘slow’ trains. Exceptions among the above were:
1.   The 10:40 Victoria, stopping only at Bromley South and Faversham before becoming ‘all-stations’ – over an hour quicker than the 11:40, but still rather slow.
2.   The 19:25 DH up skipped Teynham, Newington and Rainham and was non-stop from Chatham. On Saturdays it started at 19:45 and was non-stop Kearsney to Canterbury, to arrive Victoria at the same time.

Except for the Canterbury trains, all the above had Margate or Ramsgate sections, but it’s not clear whether the train split/joined at Faversham, or whether passengers had to change trains.

Once again it’s difficult to see any rhyme or reason behind the selection of those trains, when most others started/terminated at Dover Priory, with a few extended to/from Dover Marine but not stopping at DH (and not specifically boat-trains because their schedules were otherwise similar to all the others). And why, for example, was there an 11:42 from Herne Hill on Saturdays only, or why didn’t those stations between Kearsney and Canterbury get a stop by the up train on Saturday evenings? Were the timings arranged to suit people’s travel habits, or were their travel habits determined by the train times?

For both this and the previous post, Sunday trains were different
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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2012, 13:09:07 »
The July 1922 Bradshaw’s shows the following trains stopping at Dover Harbour (DH) Station:

05:35 Ashford – 06:45 DH – 06:53 Dover Priory.
05:26 Cannon Street, via Tonbridge & Ashford – 09:25 DH – 10:03 Sandwich
17:12 Cannon Street, via Tonbridge & Ashford – 19:08 DH

08:02 Deal – 08:29 DH – via Ashford & Maidstone, 10:49 Charing Cross.
16:48 Sandwich – 18:00 DH – 18:50 Ashford.

All the (many) others to/from the Folkestone direction passed through without stopping

From the Canterbury direction 4 were extended beyond Dover Priory to terminate at DH, and the 05:05 Victoria called at DH at 09:03 to terminate at Dover Marine at 09:14

In the up direction, just one started from DH.

All others terminated/started from Dover Priory or Dover Marine without calling at DH.

One can’t help wondering why such an odd selection of trains, and so few of them, were chosen to stop at DH. Does anyone know when DH closed?
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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2011, 22:50:51 »
Postcard showing the Esplanade loop.


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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2011, 23:01:37 »
1957.
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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2011, 11:08:50 »

No details for this old postcard as it's stuck in my notebook.I've posted it here because of the railway wagons that can be seen on the left hand quayside of the Wellington Docks.

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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2010, 20:53:36 »
Another piece from my collection of junk


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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2010, 14:45:09 »
Photograph taken 1st August 1962.
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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2010, 18:04:55 »
Thanks unfairytale - that's much clearer

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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2010, 16:26:17 »
You get a better idea with this photo. The road which leads round the back of Southern House is on the right, with the turntable far left. I guess it was burried under all those siding when the train ferry terminal was built.
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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2010, 14:04:25 »
Hi unfairytale where was the turntable located in the photo from your reply #18?

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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2010, 12:52:25 »
The Golden Arrow running into Marine station, early 1960s.

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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2010, 20:35:22 »
Some pics here taken in February 1982 of Dover Marine station sent to me by my Uncle.








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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2010, 16:31:31 »


In the time of the early railway in Dover there was much opposition from rival transport, here is an advert for coaches in the Dover paper, viz:



Print showing early train approaching Shakespeare cliff:



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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2010, 12:03:33 »
This is a photo of the 1904 opening ceremony of the branch line which ran from Harbour station along Strond street to the Prince of Wales pier. Along the lenth of the pier itself a rail link to the landing stages was constructed to carry passengers for the trans Atlantic liners.

The photo is taken on Strond street, the old Holy trinity church can be seen on the left.

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Re: Dover Harbour and Railways
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 21:58:55 »
When you've got your back to wall, there's only one thing to do and that's to turn around and fight. (John Major)
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