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Offline Mickleburgh

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2017, 08:58:38 »
Ah, got him now! 1868-1947, Albert George Mickleburgh, career in the paper industry before joining W A Stevens in 1915, lived in Folkestone.

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2017, 07:57:50 »
No relation, it is just a pseudonym for me. At first glance it is not easy to see who A G Mickleburgh was although Percy Frost-Smith is well documented. Have to dig a bit further.

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2017, 15:19:03 »
According to Vintage & Classic Commercials "in 1919 a new firm called Tilling Stevens was incorporated....to make vehicles, fire engines and arc welders. Percy Frost-Smith was joint MD with AG Mickleburgh, ex WA Stevens Ltd" Any relation to the contributor of the same name?

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2016, 08:17:35 »
Fascinating, a very worthwhile piece of research TSappo62. Certainly shows that the TS3 was indeed a reworking of an earlier concept, although whether it was Czech refuge engineers who had encountered the Cappa pre-war and thus sparked the idea remains open. one likes to think so.

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2016, 16:12:12 »
These drawings show 3 cylinder opposed piston two stroke diesels that pre date to TS3 engine made at Tilling Stevens, Maidstone in the 1950s - 1970.
The info for the Cappa 1935 comes from The Automobile Engineer, Vol 25,m 1935 and the Sulzer from The Oil Engine, 1941

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2016, 13:46:56 »
The TS3 diesel engine developed and built at Tillings Stevens was based on the 1935 Italian Cappa engine, the major difference being the Cappa has the blower mounted above the cylinder block not in the front. Also the 1941 Sulzer is similar but has a reciprocating piston blower not a Roots blower. I am currently looking out more info on these.

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2016, 08:37:36 »
Nope, the number does not help, initially at least, although I will pursue further. My guess is that it may be a vehicle from the Thomas Tilling Ltd fleet., London probably, but as to the why it would have been shipped abroad is a mystery.

Incidentally, the large numbers of London d-d buses shipped thus to France for WW1 (but not including any Tilling Stevens) did not pass through Folkestone/Dover. Those ports were for personnel, vehicles went via Avonmouth mainly, some from Southampton.

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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2016, 14:04:57 »
I guess we await illumination from CommanderChuff - since it seems to come from SE&CR Society's 'Invicta' issue 65 of 2005: the index mooting a date of 1921: http://www.southeasternandchathamrailway.org.uk/Invicta%20Index%2086_for%20website.pdf

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2016, 13:42:14 »
Enlarged, it seems that there are 2 transverse lifting bars, each dropping a cable down the side of the bus ( with suitable bags to protect the paintwork, etc.), passing through the wheels & up the other side. Even enlarged, the letters are not too clear- altho' the number is definitely 3523- but are either K L or KE or even KC ( ignoring that it might be X not K!). there doesn't seem to be any cargo upstairs, just the large protection bags.

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2016, 13:30:23 »
It looks like the object on top deck is a some sort of spreader bar to stop the crane ropes from crushing the topsides of the bus which has been slung from the wheels the rest appears to be padding to protect the bus paintwork
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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2016, 12:40:11 »
That photo of the bus being loaded at Folkestone is very curious, although not of course a SECR vehicle, certainly in 1925 and in any case they did not run any. Although continental tours were being run at this period they would not normally use such a vehicle and what is apparently being carried on the upper deck? I was not able to open the link and get a larger image, but can anyone discern what the registration mark is? Given that we may be able to piece a story together here.

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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 18:14:10 »
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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 13:23:34 »
This example of Tilling-Stevens bus is being loaded onto a ferry in Folkestone in 1925 for a trip to France.
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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2016, 15:27:24 »
In the mid 1960s Alan Fraser Racing from Hildenborough was running the unofficial works racing Imps team. They had a fully instrumented test bed in the petrol engine reconditioning area of the Tilling Stevens West Works (by the railway line). When they were running power curve tests they could be heard above all the other engines on test! They were developing larger engines than the 875cc, even up to1100cc, and also experimented with engines standing vertically not 'leaning over' as in the car. The 998cc engine used in the Rallye Imps ultimately produced over 100bhp. Strangely, the standard body shape was preferred for racing over the more streamlined looking fastback version as it was better aerodynamically!

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Re: Tilling-Stevens Engineering Factory - Maidstone
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2016, 00:14:32 »
Ouch...........
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