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Offline peterchall

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Re: Dover barrage balloon mystery
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 10:55:05 »
Was there not a minimum range at which targets could be detected, as with the airborne AI radar?

The aerials shown are the receivers. The transmitters were about mile north- west of those I think 2 of them are still there. So whether the balloons in the photo are fake or not, it is a fact that there was a radar station just outside town and a balloon barrage round it. Perhaps it would be more correct to say the balloons were above the radar did it look that steeply upwards?

The transmitters were 4 towers in a north-south line. Does anyone know if that meant Dover CH radar looked eastwards? If so the balloons would be beside it.

The next CH station was at Dunkirk, but unfortunately the transmitter aerials have gone. Does anyone remember how they were aligned? If east-west did it mean they looked southwards? If so it would be that radar station that was affected by the Dover balloons. It Dunkirk looked eastwards it would have the Canterbury balloons in front of it.
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Re: Dover barrage balloon mystery
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 10:47:27 »
Yes. I am of opinion that the foreground balloons are fake. The focus and brightness do not match the towers. They look like they are viewed from below rather than from 20 miles away ?

What location for the background balloons ?
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2015, 10:07:02 »
I am surprised that balloons would be that close to radar sites. The cables were metal and earthed? Early radars suffered from enough interference 'clutter' anyway.
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Re: Dover barrage balloon mystery
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2015, 21:04:29 »
Thanks Conan. I cannot use Google Earth on this device. Would be interesting to know where the nearest balloons were north of there ? If there are none shown in the area then that suggests the foreground ones are faked ?
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Re: Dover barrage balloon mystery
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2015, 20:32:35 »
Is there any idea of the date of the photo?
The photo is from the book Blitz on Britain and its caption says it was taken from Cap Gris Nez on the evening of 31st October 1942 after the late afternoon attack on Canterbury, but I think was taken from near Calais on the morning of 1st November.

This link might be of interest:
http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=14529.msg118638#msg118638
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Re: Dover barrage balloon mystery
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2015, 19:43:27 »
Google earth timeline back to 1940 shows ten masts in the immediate vicinity, the bases of all of them are still visible on present day Google earth. The photo seems to show somewhere getting a pasting to the right where there were a couple of bombing decoys + a couple of Z gun sites but these would only really been of use at night. Is there any idea of the date of the photo? The defence of Britain overlay shows defence in depth in the entire area as an anti invasion measure but shows no balloon sites.
 
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Dover barrage balloon mystery
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2015, 17:18:15 »
We are discussing this wartime image on another thread. We are now fairly certain that it does not actually appear to be what it claims.

We think it shows the Chain Home receiver towers at Swingate (the current remaining masts would be a taller set of four masts at approx a photo width to the left of our shot).

The question we have is the location of the six background balloons. What site are they protecting and how far inland is that? Can anyone identify the features around them and the smoke.

We have an added complication that the two foreground balloons may be added for propaganda purposes. They look fake and their sitting in front of radar masts makes no sense?
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