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Offline Nemo

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Re: What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2016, 15:38:19 »
Brilliant find Grandarog!  For the avoidance of doubt, does it say where the "documented" John Booth was interred? 

So the 7 year old boy is described as the (only) son of the "commemorated" John Booth and Caroline Sophia Booth, and he (the boy) pre-deceased her.  She was c.35 when the "documented" Mr Booth died; he was 71.  After her death, some 45 years later, she is commemorated as the relict of the "commemorated" Mr Booth, whose inscription is somewhat vague. 

A quick canter round the on-line sources reveals the typical discrepancies with her names, how many times she was married, whether she had a son who survived her and so on.  Though they do all seem to agree that JMW Turner, aka Admiral/Mr Booth, died on 19th December (1851).

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Re: What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2016, 15:13:42 »
If this is his Burial data .Doesn't bear any relation to Ber19th on inscription.

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Re: What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2016, 15:03:47 »
Is this what you are referring to Mike.............from the Sussex history board .


BOOTH
Sacred to the memory of John Pound Booth, the beloved and only son of John and Caroline Sophia Booth, who died June 26th 1832 in the 7th year of his age.
Sacred to the memory of John Booth, Gentleman, who died >>>>>Ber 19th. Sacred to the memory of Caroline Sophia Booth, relict of the above named John Booth, died June 15th 1878 aged 80 years.

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Re: What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 14:36:26 »
MG - how fascinating, thank you!  So the year of death is missing too - one might be forgiven for thinking that it wasn't important to whomsoever commissioned the inscription and/or that the month of John Booth's death (December, say) was deliberately obscured.  Fess up: what's the complete inscription?

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Re: What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 13:45:45 »
The line isn't broken and the Ber has a capital letter.  I have seen an image, is doesn't look like anything is missing.  The image I saw is also missing, but the transcript does read as if nothing, i.e. words are missing.

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Re: What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 13:38:12 »
Have you got a photo of the Gravestone you can put up for us to look at?

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Re: What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2016, 13:17:03 »
Found on a gravestone in Margate, what does the word < Ber > mean?

...  " Sacred to the memory of John Booth, Gentleman, who died Ber 19th."  ...

Is the line broken? Could it be the end of SeptemBER etc?

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What does Ber, mean?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2016, 11:52:48 »
Found on a gravestone in Margate, what does the word < Ber > mean?

Like " Sacred to the memory of John Booth, Gentleman, who died Ber 19th."   Is it Jewish?



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