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Offline smiffy

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2018, 19:07:29 »
I've found that very picture!  :)

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2018, 17:59:11 »
Is there some poor soul, somewhere, looking at a picture of The Road to Chipping Barnet thinking what’s that castle doing there? :)
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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2018, 16:18:50 »
We can't be sure that it was Wyllie himself who named this picture. It may have been mistakenly given this title at some later date by a third party.

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2018, 13:44:18 »
I guess technically the artist was correct in calling it 'The Road to Rochester', which it still is a road to Rochester regardless of where it was painted as long as it got you to Rochester? I suppose the artist was familiar with this as a main thoroughfare to Rochester, possibly forming one of the mail coach routes? I had a similar problem with an early nineteenth-century print titled 'On the Road to Dover', which took me ages to work out it was actually a view from the outer boroughs of London along a mail route to the south coast.

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2018, 09:46:37 »
Especially as the older of the two Blackwall Tunnels was opened in 1896.....
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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2018, 23:03:04 »
All makes total sense now, quiet easy really and very logical!
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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2018, 19:46:33 »
Definitely smiffy. If you down load the image from your link you get a slightly larger image and you can see the railway bridge & embankment. Well done everyone!
Perhaps Wylie thought "Rochester Road" more commercial than "Barnet Road"?

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2018, 17:51:26 »
The Barnet location is almost certainly the correct one. This means the pub is in fact the "Queen's Arms". Take a look at the photograph on this page:

http://www.beesoverseas.com/underhill-early-years.html

So why the road to Rochester? More like the road to Chipping Barnet!


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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2018, 17:40:44 »
A clearer image may be viewed at
http://19thcenturybritpaint.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/charles-william-wyllie.html
this Rochester High Street, the spire above the railway bridge is St.Barts Hospital.

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2018, 15:44:11 »
If you Google Earth "St John the Baptist Chipping Barnet" , track south on the map down the A1000 (aka The Great North Road), you will find the junction with the A110 Station Road. The railway line crosses the A1000 just north of this junction.Street view back towards the church and, I think, possibly, bingo..

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2018, 14:49:24 »
St John the Baptist, Chipping Barnet looks like the building to me...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John_the_Baptist_Church,_Chipping_Barnet
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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2018, 14:10:17 »
Quote from the link posted by jimawilliams

"Very odd as the Road to Rochester bears a striking resemblance to the old Queens Arms public house in the Underhill area of High Barnet, plus the railway bridge and church on the hill. Barnet museum has some photos of the building."

As Bilgerat says could well be a fictional scene composed by the artist.

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2018, 13:32:55 »
Just playing devils advocate here, but it may be that this is just an abstract scene, not related to any particular place?
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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2018, 13:05:04 »
Looks a bit too rural to be Rochester High Street, kyn! The church looks pretty distinctive - I've had a search through some Kent church images but haven't been able to find anything similar.

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Re: Unidentified Photographs
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2018, 23:54:30 »
Here?

 

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