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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 19:13:36 »
It is proposed to erect stained glass windows in the two vacant lights in the chancel of St. George’s Church, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham, as a memorial to His Late Majesty King George VI.

2.   The other windows in the chancel now constitute the Chatham Division War Memorial, which was unveiled by Her present Majesty when Princess Elizabeth in the autumn of 1950.  King Edward VII and King George V are both commemorated by windows in the church.

3.   It is intended to raise the necessary funds by inviting voluntary subscriptions from the Chatham Port Division.

4.   Submitted accordingly for approval provided that the work is executed to the satisfaction of the Superintending Civil engineer, Chatham.

B. I. Whitehead

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7th April, 1952

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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2012, 11:56:31 »
The Commodore, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.

With reference to your letter No.177/M.10-3 dated 16th March, regarding the crests of certain of H.M.Ships lost during the war required in connection with the Chatham Port Division war Memorial, the following information regarding these vessels has been extracted from Admiralty records:-

(i)   BATH – A badge was designed for this ex-U.S. destroyer which was named after the City of Bath, but the ship was sunk before the badge could be supplied.  The sealed pattern of this badge is enclosed for the guidance of the artist but it is requested that it may be returned to the Secretary of the Admiralty P.Branch 1, Bath.
(ii)   BIGHTON BELLE,  Paddle Steamer, built in 1900 was owned by P. And A. Campbell Ltd.  She was requisitioned by the Admiralty in 1939 and was sunk after a collision with a submerged wreck in the Downs on 28th May, 1940.
(iii)   PYLADES – is an old ship name taken out of the Greek classical mythology and formerly used in conjunction with ORESTES.  This minesweeper of the A.M.100 class was built in the U.S.A. and assigned to the U.K. under Lease-Lend.  She was completed on 27th November 1943, and sunk by torpedo 8th July, 1944.
(iv)   STORE and WIDNES were named after towns and if they made badges for themselves they probably supplied to the respective Town Clerks for the town arms.
(v)   WAVERLEY,  paddle steamer, built in 1899, was owned by the London & North Eastern railway.  She was requisitioned by the Admiralty in 1939 and sunk by aircraft off Dunkirk on 29th May, 1940.
(vi)   BULLEN and GOODALL,  were named after Admirals of these names.  In correspondence about Badges for frigates, their Commanding Officers were given the arms of these Admirals as recorded in Burke’s “General Armory” and may have used the crests out of these arms as follows:-
BULLEN – Out of a mural coronet a bull’s head or, charged with an anchor sable between two wings.
GOODALL – an eagle displayed argent beaked and membered or, gorged with a chaplet gramine vert.
(vii)   HARTLAND and WALNEY – ex-U.S.Cutters have English place names.  The Commanding Officer of H.M.S. Hartland approached the Rural Dean of Hartland, Devon, who supplied the following design:-
Field:   white.
Badge:   In front of a crozier gold, a hart’s head caboshed proper, Antlered red.
H.M.S. WALNEY takes her name from the Isle of Walney, Lancs.

By Command of Their Lordships.

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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 19:14:57 »
I was married in St Georges church, but for the life of me can't remember if there was an organ or not, it was a long time ago now ( 1964 ) I'd like to think there was ?
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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 18:13:54 »
Is there still, or was there ever, a pipe organ in St Georges?
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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 17:38:06 »
DATE:      16th March, 1949.

With reference to Admiralty Fleet Order 1756/48 actual ships’ crests have been discovered for the majority of the ships named; others, for whom no authorised crests exist are to be represented by motifs based on the shipping companies’ house colours in the case of armed auxiliary vessels, or suggested by the name in certain other cases.

2.   In the case of H.M. Ships

No authorised crests appear to exist: it has not been possible to discover whether any unofficial badge was designed on board for use on notepaper, etc., and the names to no themselves suggest a suitable motif.  In order to provide the artist engaged on the work with as much material as possible, it is requested that any information which may exist on the records of the Ships’ Names Committee concerning the derivation of the names of the ships quoted may be communicated.

3.   It is believed that H.M. Ships BATH, HARTLAND and WALNEY were all ex-United States naval vessels, and confirmation is requested on this point.  If, as appears to be the case, H.M.S. BRIGHTON BELLE was a requisitioned vessel, it is requested the name and address of the owners may be communicated so that details of house flag or crest may be sought.

Jas Eules (?)
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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 20:54:31 »

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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2012, 17:26:12 »
From:   The Commodore, Royal Naval Barracks, Chatham.
Date:   16th December, 1948.
To:   The Commander-in-Chief, The Nore.

Admiralty letter NL/CE in C 76591/47 of 21st January, 1948, approved the installation of ten memorial windows, to be executed by Mr. Hugh Easton, in the Church of St. George, R.N. Barracks, Chatham, to commemorate the services of this Port Division in the recent war.  Prior to this a proposal to instal two windows, the gift of Mr. D. Foxall, and ex-petty Officer of the Royal Navy, to commemorate the Dunkirk operation and the North African landings, had been approved by Admiralty letter CE in C 75549/47/31A of 13th September, 1947.  The design for these last two windows was prepared by Mr. Charles Blakeman.
Subsequently, however, it was felt that Mr. Blakeman’s design was not entirely suitable and would be out of harmony with the general decoration of the church and with the design of the windows to be prepared by Mr. Hugh Eaton, the designer o the Battle of Britain Window in Westminster Abbey.

It became obvious that it would be far better were Mr. Eaton to undertake the execution of the twelve windows, and this, together with the preparation of a further window to commemorate the services of the W.R.N.S. (now under consideration) he has agreed to do.  Mr. Blakeman has been approached and suitable arrangements made for his withdrawal.  Covering approval is requested for this action.

2.   It is intended to instal these windows in the chancel, where there are fifteen spaces, five above the altar of stained glass and ten in the North and South walls of plain glass.  In considering the question of the installation of the thirteen windows referred to in paragraph 1 above, all connected with the recent war, the question of the grouping of memorial windows in the church has been given serious thought with a view to producing an arrangement which will place all those prepared by Mr. Easton in juxtaposition.  By this means, not only will the memorials for the late war be kept together, but the distinctive work of Mr. Easton also, and the beauty of the church greatly enhanced thereby.

3.   To achieve this ideal, the following plan has been agreed and Admiralty authority for the various changes in position of the existing windows is sought:-

(i)   to move the five windows, three of which commemorate the reign of King Edward VII and two, purchased from church collections (not especially commemorative), from the East end (in the chancel above the altar) to the South side of the nave, where they will be opposite and complementary to the windows in memory of the reign of King George V;

(ii)   to place Mr. Easton’s work, consisting of the ten 1939/45 War Memorial windows, in the chancel to take the place above the altar of the five windows in (i) above, and together with a W.R.N.S. memorial window, which he has undertaken to do, to fill three windows on each side of the chancel.  This will leave four windows of plain glass in the chancel, one next to the organ in the South side, and three opposite to the organ on the North side.  It is proposed to replace one of these plain windows on each side by the Dunkirk and North Africa windows respectively.
In addition to the grouping of all Mr. Easton’s work in the chancel, this plan has the further advantage that the memorial windows for the 1914/18 and 1939/45 wars are opposite each other at either end of the church.

(iii)   All the windows in the chancel will thus be the work of Mr. Easton except the two opposite the organ, which for the moment would be left of plain glass.

4.   Rear Admiral B.C.B. Brooke, C.B.E., Mr. Edward Maufe, R.A. and Mr. Hugh Easton are in concurrence with these proposals.  Mr. Easton has undertaken to complete the two left hand of the five east windows by Easter, provided he has the necessary authority to proceed by mid-January.  It is therefore requested Admiralty may be asked to communicate a decision on the proposals now made at a very early date.


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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 15:32:47 »
Memorials – Chatham Port Division War Memorial – List of Ship’s Crests to be Included
28 May 1948.

With reference to admiralty Fleet Order 883/48 the following is a list of the ships to be commemorated by the inclusion of their crests in the Memorial Windows in St. George’s Church, R.N. Barracks, Chatham.

Aircraft CarriersAuxiliary Aircraft CarriersSubmarine Depot Ship
CruisersAnti-Aircraft ShipsSloops
CorvettesMinelayersArmed Merchant Cruisers
AsphodelWelshmanJervis Bay (R)
PicoteePrincess Victoria (R)Dunvegan Castle (R)
Zinnia Forfar (R)
Arbutus Salopian (R)
Hurst Castle
Tunsberg Castle (ex Shrewsbury Castle)
BedouinCity of RochesterBullen
JunoBrighton Belle
MartinMarmion (R)
BathPylades (R)
EscortWaverley (R)

2.   In addition three special emblems are being designed for inclusion to commemorate the smaller craft in which a proportion of Chatham personnel served, and which are too numerous to represent individually, i.e., coastal force vessels, submarines, and combined operations craft.

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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 13:01:54 »

DATE:   17th February, 1948.

With reference to Admiralty letter NL/CE in C 76591/47 of 21st January, 1948, no publicity has so far been given to the project of commemorating the service of the Chatham Port Division and those who lost their lives in the recent war, by means of the memorial window in St. George’s Church, R.N. Barracks, Chatham.
2.   It is considered the time is now ripe to do so, the project having reached firm ground, and it is felt that many officers and ratings who served in the ships it is intended to name in the memorial will be glad of an opportunity to subscribe towards its cost.
3.   A draft of a proposed notice is forwarded therefore, ad it is requested Admiralty may be asked to promulgate this in Fleet Orders.
4.   Action is being taken to acquaint the press and various clubs.


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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2011, 01:28:46 »
The attached papers relating to the proposed War Memorial Windows for St. George’s Church, R.N. Barracks, Chatham and a scheme for the redecoration of the Chancel and sanctuary are referred together with appropriate drawings.

2.   The design for the windows is by the artist who was responsible for the Battle of Britain Windows in Westminster Abbey and it is considered to be a very fine conception and particularly suitable.  They commemorate ships manned from the Port Division which were sunk during the war.

3.   The work of redecoration is considered essential to the scheme and the proposals will harmonise the colouring and provide an attractive setting for the new stained glass.

4.   As it is stated that sufficient money from non-public funds is available, the expenditure of public funds is not involved.

5.   Provided the work of installation is carried out to the satisfaction of the Superintending Civil Engineer Chatham, no objections are seen by Civil Engineer-in-Chief to the erection of the Memorial, including the redecoration, and, subject to any remarks by Departments, it is submitted for Their Lordships’ approval.

For Civil Engineer-in-Chief.
12 December, 1947.

This Memorial scheme has already been discussed between the Commodore, R.N. Barracks, Chatham and myself and I have already informed him that my original favourable impression is maintained and indeed enhanced on seeing the present drawings and I have no hesitation in saying that I hope Board approval may be given to the scheme for re-decoration as now submitted.

2.   While I agree with the remarks by the Civil Engineer-in-Chief regarding the designs for the windows, there re three points of detail in regard to this part of the Memorial upon which I thought it necessary to remark in a letter to the Commodore.  It may well be that the matters raised in them have already been brought to the notice of the artist and that consideration is being given to amend the scheme as there suggested.  As, however, there is no indication on the present papers of this having been done, I think it best to put on record here the relevant passages in my letter which was dated 22md October, 1947.

“It may be worth while to refer immediately to one or two points of detail so that consideration could be given to them before proceeding further:-

(1)   The representation of the wounds in the second panel of the design: to the best of my recollection these are usually portrayed in a rather more conventional style.  I must say I would very much prefer to see this done in the present case.  I think the present design involves too great a sacrifice of dignity to realism and is in fact rather ghastly.  We are endeavouring to obtain a copy of the conventional symbol and if we succeed in doing so will forward it to you under a separate cover.

(2)   The representation of the coat without seam in the fourth anal: I am not greatly enamoured of the shape and colour of the coat, which to me strikes a slightly Chinese note!

(3)   The general layout of the panels: Are these at present arranged in the order in which it is proposed they shall finally appear when in situ?  If so, and unless local layout imposes some restrictions of which I am not aware, then I should remark that the present first two panels seem to me the most important both in the ideas conveyed and in that they come respectively at the beginning and end of a series wherein the other panels represent the intermediate stages.  Unless there is good reason why it should be otherwise I would suggest that the chronological order of events in the Passion might well be observed and that that order is given by the pencilled figures which I have added to the design.”

With reference to the final sentence of (1) above, enquiries have been made but have not so far been successful in producing a copy of the conventional symbol mentioned.

3.   Subject to the above remarks I have no hesitation in recommending the acceptance of the scheme of re-decoration and design for the windows as now submitted.
J Wilson
The Chaplain of the Fleet
17th December, 1947

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Re: St George's Church, HMS Pembroke, Chatham
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 12:12:26 »
During the Chatham World Heritage Meeting held last Tuesday,

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2009, 12:55:45 »
Formely St George's Church for HMS Pembroke Royal Navy Barracks. The building has numerous navy memorials, pictures and exhibits. The centre is available for private hire but open to the public free of charge on Tuesdays.

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