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Offline HERB COLLECTOR

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Re: Trams Hythe.
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2017, 20:39:53 »
Folkestone, Sandgate and Hythe Tramways.
http://www.tramwaybadgesandbuttons.com/page148/page149/styled-104/page526.html
Photos and details of uniforms.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 22:56:46 »
Rather tatty postcard...


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Re: Trams Hythe.
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 22:02:53 »
Many Acts were submitted and rejected for the Hythe Tramway, with even a suggestion that a steam service might be possible. Finally, in October 1874, a horsedrawn service started, the route involved many sharp curves and cars were equipped with water tanks on the platforms with taps which could be turned on to lubricate the wheels when such bends were negotiated.
In 1893 the South Eastern Railway was authorised by Parliament to take over the tramway at a cost of nearly 27,000. Once completed the staff were fitted out with railway guard type uniforms but when the war came in 1914 all trams were suspended due to the shortage of horses (which were needed in France).
Trams restarted in 1919 but horses were still difficult to find so ex-army mules were tried out instead with catastrophic results. The mules were erratic and not only stopped in the wrong places, but often tried to walk in the wrong direction or into the wrong streetand so horses were reinstated as soon as possible.
After the war the tram service was beginning to lose its appeal, uniforms were no longer provided and there were no winter services. When trams stopped for the season on September 30, 1921 it was for the last time.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2010, 18:40:08 »
Interesting photos there DoverDan.They show very well why that horse tramway was suspended!Funnily enough i mentioned a fault line earlier and Madam's reading the Dover Express next to me and it has an article by a Dr.Roger Musson about the fault line out in The Channel.May slip at any time apparently and might cause a tsunami.God forbid as that would do much worse than damage a tramway.We also saw shingle on the beach being moved by a big truck to the most at risk areas on our trips along the coast road.

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2010, 12:59:17 »
These two photos show damage to the tramway on Sandgate seafront after five days of severe weather combined with high tides. This caused the sea wall to be breached along a 60ft stretch opposite Wellington terrace.
The storm occurred between 10th and 14th February 1899.



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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2010, 22:26:52 »
Many thanks for the info Longpockets,which has expanded my knowledge of the line from Sandling down to Hythe.All gone by the time i joined the railways of course.I can't remember the tunnel but some of the remaining embankments were once pointed out to me from a bus going along the seafront.I think the horse tram must have gone along this road too.Yes it was the landowner preventing the railway extension.The Harbour branch from Folkestone East i'm more familiar with(see: Transport>Last train to Folkestone Harbour: started by Trikeman).As far as i know the Tram Road is named after the adjacent Harbour Branch line.As i mentioned the gradient on that line was pretty bad and in the drivers cab of the CEP units was a switch for use on the Folkestone Harbour branch which had something to do with the electrical supply to the motors.

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Re: Trams Hythe.
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 20:59:41 »
Colin Haggart

Found this may be of use/interest -

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/28975521

Also I saw reference to a Tram Road in Folkestone


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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2010, 20:52:02 »
Interesting to read about the coast erosion.We were only just talking about a house being damaged in the Hythe area due to being on a fault line,at least i think that was the reason.I recall a cycle ride along the lower road from Folkestone to Sandgate Castle in the early 1960's.I suppose that still goes right through and is still private?I suppose that was where that Gentleman wanted to run his railway?

TowerWill,

Found these -

"The SER planned for the line to run parallel with the coastline, at the back of Sandg
ate beach, but trouble was afoot."

http://www.kentrail.co.uk/sandling_junction.htm

See Hayne Tunnel here -

http://www.forgottenrelics.co.uk/tunnels/shorter.html

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 09:07:39 »
Interesting to read about the coast erosion.We were only just talking about a house being damaged in the Hythe area due to being on a fault line,at least i think that was the reason.I recall a cycle ride along the lower road from Folkestone to Sandgate Castle in the early 1960's.I suppose that still goes right through and is still private?I suppose that was where that Gentleman wanted to run his railway?

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2010, 19:32:06 »
colin haggart

Folkestone, Hythe & Sandgate Tramway, Horse Car 5 Please see here -

http://www.tramwayinfo.com/Tramframe.htm?http://www.tramwayinfo.com/Cards/Postc20.htm

And this -

http://www.tramwayinfo.com/Tramframe.htm?http://www.tramwayinfo.com/Cards/Postc20.htm

Found this -

THE HYTHE & SANDGATE TRAMWAY - The Hythe & Sandgate Tramway might be described as the progeny of the Sandgate Branch for it would probably never have materialised without the presence of the SER. Managed by the railway company, it too strove to survive against those same forces which prevented its extension and electrification. Thus thwarted, it fell easy victim to the motorised charabanc and omnibus. It may have ended up as an anachronistic oddity, but it won a firm place in the hearts of holidaymakers and locals. The writing was already on the wall when it re-opened at the end of the Great War, but it did manage to enjoy a brief Indian Summer before closure in 1922. Here is the fascinating story of this delightful tramway which gave immeas-urable fun and pleasure for thirty years.

From here - http://www.transportdiversions.com/publicationshow.asp?pubid=2380

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1894 Storm & Coast Erosion: In January a southerly gale ravages Sandgate and its sea defences. The Hythe and Sandgate Tramway Co. comes to a halt, the metals along the Esplanade being seriously undermined.

From here - http://www.sandgate-kent.org.uk/environ.htm

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 16:45:30 »
While we were sitting on the top deck of a bus opposite the Red Lion pub in Hythe i noticed a plaque in the wall of a building directly ahead(the building in front and lower had recently been renovated after a fire).The plaque read "Folkestone,Hythe and Sandgate Tramway.189?".Moving off and i saw that the front of the building had been completely altered but i presume this was the tramshed. I initially mixed this tramway up with the railway branch line from Sandling station.Going up Sandgate Hill and it's apparent why the muffins couldn't go any further.

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Trams Hythe.
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 22:08:28 »
I spotted this cottage in Hythe  yesterday near the canal. So I took a photo.

Has anyone got any info about the cottage or the trams?




 

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