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Re: Reservoirs in Chatham Lines Ditches
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2010, 20:48:52 »
Nope, not a tunnel Chatham Girl85.

It's where some of the masonry (???) has come away from the brickwork. There wasn't a wall there originally when those ditches were built for the fortifications. The wall was added to seperate some of the ditches when they were made into reservoirs. Behind that wall is the Couvre Porte Reservoir.

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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2010, 20:28:16 »
Would that have been a tunnel to somewhere merc?
I mean the bricked up hole in the wall of the last photo?

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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2010, 19:34:44 »
Here's some pics of the very overgrown Spur Battery Reservoir. Some of the forts volunteers were in them today clearing some of the walls, and part of the Spur Battery, where another new bridge will eventually be built, reinstating the old link from the Prince of Wales Bastion, to the Spur Battery.






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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2010, 18:11:14 »
I poked around in City Ark today, but they didn't have much info on the reservoirs. Sadly no maps before the 1932 map I have which they are shown on, and no written record of their building. The only reference I found to them was a book on the history of the dockyard mentioning the Bromption reservoir (Prospect Row/Brompton Hill one) appears on an 1832 map and was removed in 1966 when it was turned into a playground. The only refence to the Fort Reservoirs mentions that they were built after 1888 and water was pumped up to them from two wells in the dockyard and gravity fed back to the yard as needed.

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 somewhere between 1888 and 1932.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2010, 12:18:52 »
And a related question: The southern part of the hornwork was under the reservoir, but was that part of the hornwork physically removed or just buried?


I think that side of the hornwork was completely destroyed rather than just buried.

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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 02:59:53 »
I just noticed the reservoirs are there on the 1938 map kyn posted here http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=412.msg4554#msg4554 so they are definitely pre-ww2.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 22:09:15 »
Thanks, I'd be very interested in seeing how the area of the old Garrison Gardens looked at that time.

The original extent of the Garrison Officers' Gardens was a lot larger than one would think. It took in all of the exsiting area of the Tennis Courts, all the the Maxwell Road Paddock area, Kings Bastion, Inner Lines and up into the Spur Battery. Bridges linked across the ditches out onto the open grassland of what we now call the Great Lines.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 21:43:37 »
Do you have any more of that map?

I have. I'll copy some more of it and put it in another thread sometime.

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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2010, 21:37:49 »
Well that shows they were definitely there by 1943!!!  I'd also forgotten about the branch that ran up the side of Spur Battery! 

The Map also answers another mystery - the location of the bandstand on Prince of Wales Bastion. Anyone happen to know when it was removed?

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2010, 21:18:11 »


From a 1943 map (i think)

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 17:14:58 »
We know that for many years there were reservoirs in the ditches around Prince of Wales Bastion and over part of the Hornwork leading towards King's Bastion. I understand they were built to supply water for the Dockyard when it expanded, and from something merc said in 1880, they were looking at several possible sites and plans for a new reservoir for water, for the Victorian Extension at the dockyard.  What I'm wondering is does anyone know when they were actually built?

And a related question: The southern part of the hornwork was under the reservoir, but was that part of the hornwork physically removed or just buri
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 17:03:35 »
I was up there today and was pleased to see the link to the Lines was open again (in a way) I did something I rarely do these days and went from the tennis courts across the footbridge to the hard Courts and found the gates open to allow access from King's Bastion (The road, not the fortification).  There is quite a good view of the reservoir from the hard courts.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2010, 11:49:22 »
The bridge went about 1997/98? The original extent of the Garrison Officers' Gardens was a lot larger than one would think. It took in all of the exsiting area of the Tennis Courts, all the the Maxwell Road Paddock area, Kings Bastion, Inner Lines and up into the Spur Battery. Bridges linked across the ditches out onto the open grassland of what we now call the Great Lines.

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 23:26:21 »
Can anyone remember when the footbridge across the reservoir from the tennis courts to the cricket ground was closed (and removed?)

And was this (and the other existing footbridge from the tennis courts to the hard courts near the army housing) originally part of the Victorian park mentioned in this thread: http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3288.0
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 09:32:05 »
Cheers Brompton Boy  :)
I can just remember the reservoirs being full of water back in the 80's.


 

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