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Offline grandarog

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Re: 20 killed in training explosion
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2009, 12:35:32 »
     Having read the post and being the inquisitive(nosey) type I looked up J Fisher on CWGC only to find no record . Never say die did more digging and found the news paper report had got his initial wrong. He was in fact, Lance Sarjeant H Fisher of the Worcestshire.s.
The following is a result of my digging and doing and may be correct or wildly wrong but unless the coroners report lists the names of the rest killed we will never be sure.
     I think Sgt Fisher was in charge of a Bomb Disposal course for members of the Royal Artillary Anti Aircraft Regiment Gunners. The following list is all of the RA men who died on the 10 Jan 1945 and crucially are buried in home town cemeteries all over England
     I would say that all the 145 LAA chaps were on the course for certain and also tongue in cheek the others were as well although they could have died in incidents at gun sites on the same day so no way of being sure.
     The paper report states 15 killed at time and more died on way to hospital
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FISHER H 5255118 9TH BN 10/01/1945 WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT

      Below is List of RA AA Personelle who Died on 10 Jan 1945

ALLEN CJ   11430097   145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
BERRY AH   1576301  164 HAA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
BLAKE JSC 11430100 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
BROWN G 1576237    164 HAA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
DARLINGTON R 14309395 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
DAVIS GF 14301914 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
ELLIS WA 846257 64 HAA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
HARVEY CW 14229206 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
JONES RA 14245485 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
JONES E 14237606 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
MADDISON GT 1803815 84 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
MERCHANT CV 1764835 164 HAA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
NIXON J 14367525 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
ROLLINSON R 3975215 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
STURMAN SWH 14522781 164 HAA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
TAYLOR WA 1549448 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
TAYLOR F 894368 145 LT AA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
WALKER R 14556070 436 BTY, 128 HAA REGT 10/01/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY

Any one else got any ideas to input as to how to conclude this post with a positive result.

                                                     Rog.



                                                    


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Re: 20 killed in training explosion
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 18:52:47 »
With the mention of the B.L.A. in the first report i have been doing a little research, later in the year the B.L.A. were sent to Shorncliffe for demobilization, if this was standard them maybe this is the same camp.  I cannot find any information regarding an explosion at this site though.

Could the victims have been buried at the cemetery here too?

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Re: 20 killed in training explosion
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2009, 14:05:52 »
Still don't know, the second article didn't say.

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Re: 20 killed in training explosion
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2009, 14:03:54 »
A detonater is powerful enough to take off a hand, if close enough to the main charge a sympathetic explosion could happen. They are also very sensitive so are always held cigarette style to reduce heat transfer. In the times article it said that damage to the hut was negligible just widows blown out. Which camp was it?

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Re: 20 killed in training explosion
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2009, 13:51:27 »
A verdict of Death by Misadventure was returnned at the inquest.  During the inqest a live mine was brought in to show however was sent back out with the coroner stating:

Then I must ask that it be immediately taken from the room, I wish for no demonstrations with live mines here.

Dummy mines were not used for the demonstration as none were available.  The mine exploded whilst Sergeant Fisher was holding the detonator and cartridge, which means the bomb should not have been able to explode...

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20 killed in training explosion
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2009, 15:45:30 »
Whilst trawling The Times for info on the Bishopstone Ranges  I picked this up. (trimmed down by PM)
Jan 12 1945
Mine Explosion at Camp Lecture
20 soldiers were killed and 25 injured on Wednesday afternoon (Jan 10) when a mine exploded at a lecture at a hut in a camp in Kent the War Office has stated. About 60 men from 52 regts were at the lecture in a nissen hut when the mine exploded. Sgt J Fisher of Birmingham was dismantling a live anti personel mine and as he withdrew the detonator it exploded killing him and 15 others instantly, more died on the way to a nearby Military  hospital, about a dozen are blinded. Civil Defence and Medical units came from nearby towns.

Any one know more ? Thinking it could be Chattenden or Brompton  Sgt Fisher was Lance Sargeant Fisher of the Worcestershire Regt

 

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