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ellenkate
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« on: May 05, 2010, 10:44:10 am »


Some details:
Dover year book 1898 reported the start of  a Scavenging Depot in Tower Hamlets Road, and the necessary plant, horses and stables, to do the scavenging without the intervention of a Contractor.   A paper on the subject gave the following details (which I have condensed):

     "The scavenging of the town had, until April 1897, been done under contract.  The town was divided into two parts, a separate contract being made for each.   The house refuse was collected daily, the pails containing refuse being placed on the edge of the pavement or within  forecourts,  early in the morning, and mostly were removed by 10 am.   Dust-bin accommodation in some cases was provided, to be emptied on request, when a card marked "D" was shown in the window. 
     The street detritus was swept up by Corporation workmen to be carted away by contractors.  The contractors found sites for depositing house and street refuse, outside the borough.   The contract system being by no means good, a report on the subject was submitted, with a view to the Corporation carrying out the work with their own staff.    Disposal and cost were the main items for consideration. 
     The character of Dover, with its brickyards and agricultural land, gave opportunities for cheap and useful disposal, so the Surveyor could not then recommend the erection of a destructor, - the Corporation did not require to combine it with commercial enterprise, such as electric lighting, and steam-generated plant.   The Surveyor made a trial of sending the house and street refuse to sea in one of the Dover Harbour Board's hopper barges.  The barge held a two days' supply from the whole town, being 106 cubic yards, or about 60 tons, when shot into the tideway one mile seaward of  Admiralty Pier, was taken right away to the eastward, -  reliable tests proved that, whatever state of  wind or tide, the refuse would not come back into the harbour or be washed on shore.  In the experiment, however, there was some difficulty in getting the refuse to leave the barge;  on account of its lightness it would not sink through the hopper.  This difficulty, however, could be overcome by  more skilful loading, the heavy material being placed in the hopper first.
 The Surveyor however did not recommend this system on account of the limits of dock accommodation, and the undesirability of loading house refuse into a barge in the inner harbour.  The same objection did not attach to street detritus, and he recommended this means of disposing of it.
    After inquiry it was found that the house refuse could be disposed of at the local brickyards outside the borough for some years to come, and this mode was approved.  It was recommended that the street detritus was sent to sea, and that a steel hopper barge holding 100 tons, enough for 10-days' storage be purchased for this purpose.  Accordingly, a tender for such a barge was accepted at £900......"



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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 01:15:11 pm »

Fast forward about 60 years from the time of ellenkate's article to the era of my childhood and you have the opening of Dover's first refuse tip on Old Charlton Road,Dover.I can remember climbing up a tall horse chestnut tree with my brother to watch lorry loads of town refuse being dumped on the hillside.The land would have once been owned by the Ferguson family of Frith Farm at Guston(one of my future employers).
The tree was in a belt of trees at the back of the Dane's recreation site.A WW2 stop line came into the road end of these trees and can still be seen today together with concrete obstacles from the road.The dump site was far from ideal due to the steepness of Old Charlton Road(Chalky Lane)and it's narrowness.Eventually some years later Dover Harbour was expanded in the Eastern Docks area and chalk was extracted from the hillside above the first tip and taken there by large 3 axle lorries belonging to Mears.Delboy has a good knowledge of this era being one of the drivers of these trucks.The trucks would come up Castle Hill from the Docks,past Fort Burgoyne and then turn left down Chalky Lane to the pit's gate.Once loaded these trucks would go down Chalky Lane to the 5 ways junction and cross into Frith Road and then via Maison Dieu Road to the Docks.This junction was/is potentially very dangerous as traffic cannot be seen approaching from the right.Charlton school added another potential risk to this area.Accidents did occur such as a refuse truck being pushed backwards into a cemetary fence by a Mears lorry.Eventually chalk extraction finished and a new level of town waste was built up.Going up  Chalky Lane today one can observe The Danes recreation ground,followed by the first tip and then the upper level where the chalk pit once was.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 10:31:01 pm »

I,m sure that one of those tip sites in Old Charlton Rd was later used as a scrapyard or car breakers around the early to mid 70s.Possibly by "Coppins" from Cherry Tree Avenue ?
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 02:00:32 pm »

Yes i think i can recall that scrap yard too strangelights.It was probably on the site of the first tip and i seem to recall going up there from Coppin's yard in Cherrytree Avenue to get a spare for an old banger.Slightly off topic i can also recall finding a dumped B.S.A. motorbike up the hill in the ditch of the West Redoubt of Fort Burgoyne.I salvaged the distributor from this and fitted it to my 1948(i think)B.S.A. which then ran perfectly and made getting to work up Chalky Lane an easy task rather than a hard slog.Those big trucks still needed watching out for though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 03:16:59 pm »


Where there's muck there's money:

Richard COLLARD  -  he was fined 5 shillings for taking dirt from the streets, the property of the contracting scavenger 
(police report, reported in Dover Telegraph of December 1837)

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