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Re: Fort Pitt, Chatham.
« Reply #130 on: December 13, 2016, 20:45:11 »
Zooming in to this picture, in the centre there is something puzzling that I can't identify. It appears to be a column or perhaps a chimney/vent of some kind and stands perhaps fifteen feet tall and around six feet in diameter, by my reckoning. It appears on the 1866 OS map, but on no others that I have found and shows up clearly in only one other picture that I have seen. Perhaps one of our members can throw some light on the function of this structure.

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« Reply #129 on: December 12, 2016, 20:57:35 »
Nice aerial view from the northwest c.1920.

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« Reply #128 on: August 22, 2015, 23:35:15 »
4 photos of Crimean War wounded taken at 'Chatham Hospital' (Fort Pitt) 1855.

© IWM (Q 71593) Wounded soldiers seen by HM Queen Victoria at Chatham Hospital.
© IWM (Q 71592) Wounded soldiers assemble in the grounds of Chatham Hospital in Kent during a visit by Queen Victoria during the Crimean War.

© IWM (Q 71591) Wounded soldiers seen by HM Queen Victoria at Chatham Hospital. John Daniels, 55th Regiment and Robert Evans, 13th Light Dragoons.

Private Robert Evans (right) No1510. 13th Light Dragoons.
Born London c. 1833.
Lost left leg in the Charge of the Light Brigade.

The Commandant of the Chatham Garrison has received from her Majesty the photographic likeness of John Daniels and Robert Evans, which he is presenting on Wednesday next to these two young men, who are now at Fort Pitt. The former had 13 pieces of his skull taken away and the latter lost a leg under distressing circumstances.
Extract from the Naval and Military Gazette, 8 December 1855.

Amongst the number passed as "unfit for further service" held recently at the Brompton Barracks at Chatham, was Robert Evans of the 13th Light Dragoons, who has been at the Hospital nearly twelve months, and had received his injuries in an extraordinary manner.
In the Charge at Balaclava a shell entered the chest of his horse which rolled completely over, falling upon Evans when the shell burst inside the animal and tearing it open from the shoulders to the hindquarters, the weight of the animal nearly causing suffocation whilst in its death throes and inflicting serious contusions upon the legs of Evans, who would have expired had not a man of his troop and two Lancers released him.
Birmingham Daily Post,
2 January 1856.

More @ http://chargeofthelightbrigade.com/allmen/allmenE/allmenE_13LD/evans_r_1510_13LD.html

© IWM (Q 71622) John Dryden, 11th Hussars (Prince Albert's), a wounded soldier seen by HM Queen Victoria at Chatham Hospital.

Wounded in the Charge of the Light Brigade, with 27 lance wounds to back and sides, three sabre cuts to head and bridge of nose. Taken prisoner and exchanged at Odessa.

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« Reply #127 on: August 22, 2015, 22:43:24 »
5 photos of Crimean War wounded taken at 'Chatham Hospital' (Fort Pitt) 1855.

© IWM (Q 71623) Clemence Brophy, 34th Regiment, a wounded soldier seen by HM Queen Victoria at Chatham Hospital.
© IWM (Q 71624) Jesse Lockhurst, 31st Regiment and Thomas O'Brien, 1st Royals, wounded soldiers seen by HM Queen Victoria at Chatham Hospital.
© IWM (Q 71621) Corporal Michael McMahon, 1st Royals, a wounded soldier seen by HM Queen Victoria at Chatham Hospital.
© IWM  (Q 71099) Thomas McRaving on crutches while recovering from his wounds at Chatham Hospital.
© IWM  (Q 71106) Thomas Walker, left and Joseph Conolly who were presented to Queen Victoria on her visit to Chatham Hospital. Both were wounded at Inkermann.
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« Reply #126 on: November 22, 2014, 23:53:09 »
The Queen's Visit to the Wounded Soldiers at Fort Pitt and Brompton. 1855.

At ten o'clock on Saturday morning, the Queen, accompanied by Prince Albert, the Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and suite, left the Bricklayers' Arms Station, from whence she was conducted in a special train to the terminus at Strood, at which station the Royal train arrived at seven minutes before eleven o'clock. Her Majesty was received on the platform by Robert Clement, Esq., the Mayor of Rochester, James Lewis, Esq., the town-clerk, and the whole body of the Corporation. The station was tastefully decorated, and there was under the command of Captain Wylde, a guard of honour, consisting of the Royal Marines from Chatham, accompanied by their band. Upon the Sovereign's arrival, a royal salute was fired from the batteries. The Mayor had the honour of presenting to the Queen the following address:--

"To the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty:-
'We, your Majesty's most obedient and loyal subjects, the mayor, aldermen, and citizens of the city of Rochester, in the county of Kent, humbly crave leave to approach your Majesty on the occasion of your visit to this ancient city, with the assurance of our continued and hearty loyalty and attachment to your Majesty's person, house, and Government. In thus approaching your Majesty, we are reminded of the occasion which brings your Majesty to Rochester, for the purpose of evincing your royal sympathy and consideration for those brave and gallant men who are now suffering from the effects of the mighty war in which your Majesty is so justly engaged, to express our most cordial and sincere appreciation of your Majesty's consideration and benevolence, and our hearty concurrence in the generally expressed voice of the nation, of the necessity of vigorously prosecuting the pending war, and to add the trust that under the guidance and by the mercy of a mighty providence, the arms of your Majesty, with those of your Allies, may speedily triumph over our enemies, and restore the peace of nations, and with it the blessings and prosperity of peace to this kingdom.'

Her Majesty having graciously received the address, was then waited upon by the Commandant of the Garrison, Col. Kden, after which the Sovereign and suite proceeded in carriages to the Government House, and from thence she was accompanied to the hospital at Fort Pitt, by the Colonel Commandant and Admiral Gordon, and a bodyguard of Hussars from Maidstone being advance and rear of the cortege. At Fort Pitt the Queen was met by Dr. Dartnell, the principal staff medical man, and two staff surgeons. Her Majesty and Prince Albert went through the various wards, and to each of the men confined to their beds the Sovereign addressed words of sympathy and consolation. The poor fellows in this hospital number 197, and those whom the Queen spoke to in their beds were sobbing like children as her words fell upon their ears. Her Majesty was also visibly affected, though she had evidently summoned much fortitude to support her during the interview.
Upon the Queen leaving the wards, the convalescent patients, numbering some thirty, were drawn up in the forecourt under the verandah, and her Majesty went round to every one of the veterans, and expressed her concern for the dangers they had gone though. The brave fellows, obedient to discipline, could not cheer their Queen, but their features most eloquently spoke their loyalty and gratitude.
Her Majesty expressed to Dr. Dartnell her high approval of the hospital arrangements.

The Queen next proceeded to visit the Crimea invalids at Brompton Hospital, where they numbered 161, all severely wounded. The patients from St Mary's depot had been removed on the overnight to Brompton, in carriages, so that her Majesty might inspect all the veterans who had so recently shed their blood for the country, without being obliged to see them at St Mary's, where there are many soldiers invalided from causes not connected with the war.
At Brompton Hospital her Majesty expressed herself in similar terms of condolence to those so graciously uttered at Fort Pitt, and the gratitude of the soldiers was heartfelt. At Brompton, when her Majesty was leaving the wards, the wounded men cried out, 'God bless our Queen' while tears coursed down their wan cheeks, which ebullition of loyalty, under the pain of deep wounds, completely overcame the Sovereign, who sobbed as she re-entered her carriage. After driving though the barracks, the Queen and suite passed through the High-Street for the railway station, from whence she departed at 38 minutes past one o'clock, amidst the cheers of a large concourse of the townspeople.

The surgeons say that her Majesty's visit will cure more men than all the hospital care and attention could possibly accomplish.


From The Cornwall Chronicle (Australia) 20 July 1855.
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« Reply #125 on: November 22, 2014, 22:04:07 »
Young  Pte William 1630 13th LD

Was the man in the photo one of the unfortunate souls who were in the Charge of the Light Brigade?  If so he was lucky to survive!

William Young is not listed as being in any of the regiments that took part in the charge of the Light Brigade.
666 men are known to have taken part in the charge. 131 were killed and 140 were wounded. (Wiki says 118 killed).
Names and numbers taken from Hells Riders The truth about the Charge of the Light Brigade. by Terry Brighton. The author was on the curatorial staff of the Queen's Royal Lancers Regimental Museum.
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« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2014, 17:26:07 »
A fair or circus
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« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2014, 15:42:12 »
Aerial view from 1946:

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« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2014, 15:41:49 »
Aerial view from 1946:

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« Reply #121 on: January 24, 2013, 20:35:00 »
I would assume that once these were introduced after the thefts in 1805 all of the bricks used by the military would have been marked too. 

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« Reply #120 on: January 24, 2013, 17:40:40 »
Two bricks showing the Board of Ordnance Mark which was included after 1805 due to the bricks being unloaded at the construction site of Fort Pitt being stolen.  The bricks were found at the Bicentenary Bridge site on Chatham Lines.

Interesting to see these bricks Kyn - if I recall identically stamped ones were used in the construction of the 1812 'A' Magazine at Lower Upnor

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« Reply #119 on: January 24, 2013, 10:52:52 »
Tuesday, January 8, 1861

By direction of the authorities at the War Department, an extensive piece of ground has been marked out at Fort Pitt Hospital, and taken possession of by the sappers and miners of the Royal Engineers, on which to erect a commodious building to be used for the purposes of a museum to contain the large collection of valuable objects in natural history now deposited in the various buildings of the hospital, many of the objects being very much deteriorated through the want of proper buildings in which to deposit them. The new building will be erected close to the present medical school and museum, and will be sufficiently large to contain the whole of the valuables, which are constantly accumulating. The contract for the building has been taken by Mr. K. Spicer, builder, Strood, and the museum will at once be commenced.

From The Morning Post.

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« Reply #118 on: July 04, 2012, 18:38:44 »
Horse Guards
24th February 1841

The proposition for the removal of the whole of the Invalid Establishment from Fort Pitt at Chatham, to Deptford, involves the following considerations.
This Invalid Establishment was originally at Chelsea, and was, for very good reasons, removed from thence to Fort Pitt, that they might be placed in security, out of the reach of all that class of persons who made a prey of the soldiers and their families, who thus formed themselves, on their Discharge, in a state of complete destitution.
The Barracks at Deptford belong to the Admiralty, and are constructed for the reception of the Royal Marines to the extent of
1 Field Officer,
2 Captains,
4 Subalterns,
1 Staff Surgeon,
198 Men,
and they are occupied by a Detachment of the Regiment from Woolwich:
1 Field Officers, 2 Captains,
3 Subalterns,
1 Assistant Surgeon,
196 Non-commissioned Officers,
4 Privates,
as will be seen tot he full extent of their construction, and comprising a Garrison considered indispensible, by the Naval Authorities, for the protection of the Building and Stores in that large Dock Yard.
The Invalid Establishment at Fort Pitt at present consists of
1 Staff Captain,
1 Clerk to Superintendant,
1 Serjeant Clerk to Superintendant,
1 Paymaster,
3 Clerks to Paymaster,
3 Staff-Serjeants,
1 Assistant serjeant Major,
405 Invalids.
It is evident, therefore, that there is no Accommodation in the Dock Yard at Deptford for the reception of any part of this Establishment, and if there was, it would be more than (the rest of the letter is unfortunately missing.)




Two bricks showing the Board of Ordnance Mark which was included after 1805 due to the bricks being unloaded at the construction site of Fort Pitt being stolen.  The bricks were found at the Bicentenary Bridge site on Chatham Lines.

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« Reply #117 on: March 25, 2012, 22:54:35 »






A Statement of the Dwelling houses and other Buildings the Property of the Ordnance at Chatham let to Individuals, with the Rent arising therefrom.

No. on the PlansNamesDescription of BuildingRent for Annum £Remarks
16Capt. Pudner & E. J. Comfy (?)HouseBy  60  “  “
27Zach Tims (?)Canteen 50  “  “
Total1,465  4  “

A statement of the Storehouses, Magazines, Workshops &c. the property of the Ordnance at Chatham shewing their dimensions, the materials with which they are constructed, and the purposes to which they are applied.

No. on the Plan.Buildings.HeightLength.Breadth.Walls.Roof.No. of Stories.
101 (marked as 100 on plan)Fort Pitt – Magazine 2 rooms each14.628”17”BrickBrick & TileOne
102Fort Pitt – Bomb proof store24.353.919”BrickBrick & TileTwo
103Fort Pitt – Museum & Store23.739”27”BrickSlateThree
104Fort Pitt – Bricklayers Shed6.930”8.3BrickTileOne

A Statement of the Barracks at Chatham shewing the Number of Field Officers, Captains, Subalterns, Non-commissioned Officers and Private Men they are calculated to contain.

No. on the PlanNameSituationCalculated to contain
130Defensible Guardhouse.Left of Fort Pitt.
131General Hospital.Fort Pitt.3 Field Officers.
8 Captains.
9 Subalterns.
14 Non-commissioned Officers & Privates.
300 Patients.
132Casemated Barracks.Fort Pitt.540 Non-commissioned Officers & Privates.
133Tower.Fort Pitt.50 Non-commissioned Officers & Privates.
1342 Casemates flanking the right branch of the Horn Work.Fort Pitt.
1352 Casemates flanking the left branch of the Horn Work.Fort Pitt.
136Casemated guardhouse in the left counterscarp of the Horn Work.Fort Pitt.1 Non-commissioned Officer & 9 Privates.
137Casemates under the Ravelin in the south work front.Fort Pitt.
138Casemated guardhouse near the Barrier.Fort Pitt.
139Defensible guardhouse.Right of Fort Pitt.

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« Reply #116 on: February 28, 2012, 19:08:15 »
Lunatic Hospital, Fort Pitt.

This building is of recent construction, and is rather intended for a house of detention or of observation than for an asylum.  Patients are kept generally for a month or two, until their case is decided on, after which they are removed elsewhere if necessary.  The building, therefore, should not be judged of as a regular lunatic establishment.  The average inmates exceed 20.  There are three flats of wards along each side of the building, with a corridor running from end to end, and having the ward doors opening into it on either side.  The corridors communicate by a staircase, which also affords a means of ventilation and light.  Each corridor has two blind ends, in which are situated water-closets, and the only means of ventilating and lighting these ends, is by opening the water closet doors and windows.
The wards and day room are rather small, and have not that amount of cubic space per man required for the proper management of lunatics, while their small size, moreover, renders frequent entrance through the night necessary for supervision, and irritable patients are apt to be disturbed.
The general ventilation of the building requires improvement.  Suggestions for this and for other improvements have been made by the Medical Officer from time to time, and most of them we understand to have been included in the estimates for the present year.
The fence surrounding the building is only 4½ feet high, and has been frequently cleared by patients at a bound.  This defect might be easily remedied.  Alterations might also be easily made in the water-closets at the end of the corridor, so as to enable light and air to enter the corridor without interfering with the closet.

 

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