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Offline Charles

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Re: Fort Pitt, Chatham.
« Reply #163 on: September 08, 2018, 16:31:45 »
Yes I agree that the round chimney like structure is probably a later addition sometime between 1805 when the fort was started and the 1858 report.

Hartshorn was originally shavings of deer antler and as you say was a source of ammonia for smelling salts. Most better off people would carry these or a nose gay or vinaigrette to waft under their noses when faced with what they candidly refer to as nuisances. It was a smelly old world.

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« Reply #162 on: September 08, 2018, 14:00:23 »
I think you may have the solution there Charles. It is interesting that it states that there is a shaft and not a chimney. Perhaps the chimney was constructed later as a way to lessen the effects of the offending smells. By having the fumes discharge higher they would probably be carried away more efficiently.

I was wondering what hartshorn was and it appears that it was just a contemporary name for smelling salts.

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« Reply #161 on: September 08, 2018, 09:31:24 »
The 1858 report of the Commissioners for the Sanitary Condition of the Army inspected military hospitals including Fort Pitt and its text contains what is a plausible explanation for the chimney like structure seen on some old photos etc. Anyone who guessed sewer vent was 95 percent correct. It appears to be the top of a shaft to ventilate the privies in the casemated barracks that stood where the college building is now. From the attached description it clearly did not work to everyone's satisfaction and was not something to stand down wind of!


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« Reply #160 on: June 03, 2018, 01:57:33 »
Well, yes - it turns out it probably is a boring old lime kiln, as you can see from this map. Love the name shown for the road though - "Break Neck Hill!"

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« Reply #159 on: June 02, 2018, 23:07:30 »
Could it be an old lime kiln ?
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« Reply #158 on: June 02, 2018, 16:41:41 »
Here is a view from near Fort Pitt, a detail from which I posted in the Windmills section. It shows what looks to be Fort Pitt Hill, which at this time seems to be a rather rough track leading down into the New Road. Milton's Terrace is still there, and possibly Milton's cottage next door, but what intrigues me is the archway visible bottom right. What was it - a store of some kind? A shelter for animals? Someone's home? Or is it the entrance into a mysterious long-lost tunnel, leading to who knows where?

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« Reply #157 on: October 01, 2017, 10:51:13 »
Hi.

I was looking at the red-arrowed tower in Smiffy's pic in post #160.

It does indeed seem to line up with the rear of the casemates. Although on the other side of the casemates, it would be on the higher ground there by the fort entrance. I would have thought such a high object would be visible from the Jacksons Fields viewpoint.
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« Reply #156 on: September 22, 2017, 16:16:39 »
This is a modern view via Google Earth from approximately the same location.

I was assuming the original poster was referring to the tall structure at far right of the old photo which is probably a chimney from a building within Fort Pitt. The tower on the left is clearly St. Barts. The structure I indicated with the arrow looks likely to be a chimney related to the casemates which means that, as you rightly state, the mystery tower is not visible from this position .

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« Reply #155 on: September 22, 2017, 10:44:17 »
The first image looks to be a tower at or new St. Bartholomew's Hospital.

The second photos shows a tower near the entrance to the fort at the back of what is now the college.

The mystery tower would be the other side of the casemates (the site of the college) and hidden from view from Jackson's Field.

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« Reply #154 on: September 22, 2017, 09:35:28 »
Windmill ?

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« Reply #153 on: September 15, 2017, 02:15:16 »
Thanks, now I know :)

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« Reply #152 on: September 14, 2017, 21:13:40 »
According to http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/1863/history, "The park was purchased and presented to the city in 1914 by Councillor Howard Jackson."

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« Reply #151 on: September 14, 2017, 16:14:44 »
That's an interesting view from what is now known as Jackson's Fields (I'm unsure as to when it was so named and who Jackson was).

However, from the location of the photographer, the unidentified tower is more likely to be the object indicated here by the arrow.

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« Reply #150 on: September 13, 2017, 23:33:43 »
It is possible that the "mystery tower" is shown  on the horizon just to the left of the fort, in this photograph. 

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« Reply #149 on: April 19, 2017, 23:07:09 »
This photo of the eastern flank of Fort Pitt (now the site of the school tennis courts) is stated on the Medway images site as being from around 1930, although I believe that it can't actually be much later than about 1900.

 

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