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Re: Chatham Intra
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2013, 18:29:26 »
Another long gone building from Chatham Intra - the premises of J H J Johnson, saddlers and harness makers. This was on the corner of Hulkes lane.

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Re: Chatham Intra
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2012, 00:03:52 »
Rambo & myself went for a stroll in this area again, to see if we could find out some more about the various buildings that are hidden from view.

Behind this row of ex-Featherstones shops, is Central Wharf


We were fortunate enough to find a local guide to tell us about the area. The row of weather-boarded properties are Georgian


Leofwine's 1932 map of the area shows a jetty next to Central Wharf, and this building was owned by the Medway Steam Packet Company, who ran regular trips on the river on their paddle steamers. This was possibly the ticket office.


The river front






Possibly remains of the jetty in the foreground?


And this was originally a sail loft.


 
We only managed to 'do' this wharf, as we had unexpectedly & pleasantly spent time in the Sir John Hawkins Hospital (but as that is just outside Chatham Intra it will be on a different thread :))

By the way, our guide was the very helpful grandson of Mr. Featherstone. Although the shops have long gone, virtually the whole area is still owned by the family.

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Re: Chatham Intra
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2012, 17:52:53 »
Information on these companies should be added to their own threads and not added here if anyone has any information to share.

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2012, 17:13:12 »
The same area in 1932

Hi there. I am researching family history and can you tell me the names of any shipbuilding companies or yards between Sun Pier and Ship pier in the 1970's. This map is very useful.Thank you.

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 17:39:10 »
Remember it well , on the way back from chatham going towards rochester,there was a dodgy public toilet, just where the railings jut out, also opposite was a car breakers yard ,where i took many of my old cars.And on the wall was the infamous graffiti "BEWARE OF THE MINDREADER". I reckon the photo was taken from the Hare and Hounds.

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2012, 13:46:26 »
numanfan, What great pictures as a child I lived near Adlards wharf in Bardell terrace and often used to go further along the high street near many of the places you showed ,was lovely seeing the places now  :)

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2012, 11:35:29 »
Stewie. I realise this is an old site now but i've only just discovered it. I find your comments more than interesting. I was apprenticed at JH Durrant on St Margarets Banks and we used to do a lot of the local building works. i recall working on Pickfords depot which was almost exactly where the low wall is shown on the picture. On the roof of the workshop were very large timbers and I was told at the time ((1952) that they were part of the structure of the Chatham/Dover Rail system. So you are right I believe.

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2010, 08:24:02 »
That is an intersting picture because the wall that used to front the area where the car park is now looks to have belonged to the building in the right hand of the picture. The doorways and window voids had been bricked up by this time and only about two thirds of the first story remained.
I think the branch line ran on a viaduct or wooden trestle because it had to pass over the goods yard between the river and the LC&DR main line. Seem to recall another thread on this site discussing the church and chalk pits at Frinsbury having an old photo taken from the castle and giving a panaramic view of Rochester showing this line.

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2010, 23:10:13 »
This is the closest I can get to Chatham Central station during the right period. The Station buildings would be just out of shot to the right.

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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2010, 22:50:01 »

I'd wondered if the station was elevated as it seemed to me that the gradient would be a bit steep for it to be at ground level. It's hard to believe there are no more photos as railways have always been a popular subject.

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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2010, 21:27:41 »
Considering the station was built on a wooden viaduct (so I believe) it looks quite a substantial structure. I can remember the lower portion of a front wall of a building in Rochester High Street just Chatham side of the exisiting Railway Viaduct which I was told was all that remained of the station masters house. 
This wall was removed when the area of land was converted into a car park and I believe prior to this there was a scrap yard here.
I have searched for pictures of this terminus but I have the same two postcard as yourself from the 'Lens of Sutton' collection.

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2010, 18:33:13 »

Tell a lie, there is another photo but it's practically identical to the one shown.......


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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 23:04:35 »
One thing that hardly ever gets a mention concerning Chatham Intra is Chatham Central station, which wasn't actually in Chatham and was hardly what you might call central. This unnecessary extension was built at vast expense by the South Eastern Railway during the 1880's and 1890's. Needless to say, it wasn't a success and closed in 1911 after barely twenty years of use. This must go down as one of the most costly miscalculations in railway history.

As well as two new stations (Rochester Common being the other one), swathes of new viaduct were constructed, houses, businesses and streets swept away and a new bridge built across the Medway. This is perhaps the only positive thing to come out of it, as this bridge is still currently in use. Nothing else remains apart from a short length of the original viaduct either side which connects the bridge to the current rail system. Although it must have been well reported at the time and the station buildings must surely have been recorded, there is virtually nothing in the visual archives, this being the only known surviving photograph.

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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 01:47:56 »
I found this interesting description on http://www.medwaypilots.co.uk/

Chatham Intra.
 "Into Rochester or Chatham ..... Because if anybody knows to a nicety where Rochester ends and Chatham begins is more than I do". This statement by Charles Dickens in his book "Seven Poor Travellers" covers an area of no mans land between Chatham and Rochester known as "Chatham Intra". People living in this area, usually riverfolk, paid rates to either Rochester or Chatham. It has no parish church and so church allegiances were divided between St. Marys Church, Chatham or St Nicholas's Church, Rochester. Ship Pier and Doust's Yard both belonged to this area. Doust's Yard was originally owned by William George Gill, who?s once grand residence has a slipway in front of it, known as Gills Lower Yard. Many barges and yachts were built at this yard including several paddle steamers. The company also owned a site in Bridge Reach, known as the upper Yard. Gill's became the founders of the London and Rochester Trading Company, whose barges were a common feature on the River Medway. Another slipway was built next to Gill's and became Doust's Yard. This company operated from Old Foundry Wharf and remained in Rochester for over fifty years until it closed in the 1980's. Old Foundry Wharf was also occupied by Wm. Kimmins, cornfactor, and S. Bullard, sail maker and brewers agent. Old Foundry Wharf buildings are still in position however, in the aid of progress, the buildings of Dousts Yard have been demolished recently to make way for a car park.
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Re: Chatham Intra (Part 1)
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2010, 22:25:18 »
The same area in 1932
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