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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2011, 08:07:12 »
The topic was locked to ensure that the dockyard gates were discussed individually, rather than collectively. 
Thank you for your observations, I will merge this post with the original thread but would ask that any further posts from members be made for each gateway.
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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2011, 23:02:20 »
The topic has been locked so please excuse the re-birth....

The top picture with the rows of police(?) is taken at Main gate at Pembroke Dock Royal Dockyard.

The Canons seen in the ground are now mounted in replica carriers at the 'Garrison Chapel' - done in the early nineties

I have lived in PD for 25 years and lived for many years in a former RAF married quarter jsut outside those very gates. I worked in teh dockyard (for C&E) so walked thru them many times ! The walls are still 'stained' where the sign were fastened. The tops of the pillars were damaged by HGVs in the nineties and have been rebuilt.

I shall try to remember to get a current photo.

BTW I also served with teh ROC at MAI 21 post Kingsdown in the 80s and was the resident Customs officer at Manston for a few months

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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2011, 12:32:45 »
Please start individual threads for each topic.

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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2010, 17:35:16 »
It is called 'Main Gate', although I think most workers entered and left the yard via Pembroke Gate. It is situated on Dock Road.
I spent many a night in the Main Gate when I was on the security about ten years ago.
Alexandra Gate is no longer used for vehical access to the Historic Dockyard but during my time there,
it had a security hut and lifting barriers.
I also worked there for a couple of years in the early 1970s and remember the famous Dockyard Hooter.
There was a pair of them up on a large building not far from Pembroke Gate and there were a couple of others elsewherethat were higher pitched and only seemed to work occasionally.

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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2010, 23:35:04 »
It is called 'Main Gate', although I think most workers entered and left the yard via Pembroke Gate. It is situated on Dock Road.
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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 00:11:44 »
Which gate is this one?
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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2010, 10:41:58 »
For some reason the newspaper got the name of the gate wrong! I was there for the ceremony and it was definately the gates to Pembroke Barracks that were locked. There was only one Alex Gate and that was opposite the bottom of Cumberland Road that was sometimes misquoted as being Khyber Road

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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2010, 17:32:42 »
As Bromptonboy pointed out the Pembroke Gate was moved as shown in this 1969 map, next to the Main Gate of the barracks.

below this map is a cutting that confused me, but below that is a report that backs up Bromptonboy. Were there two Alexandra Gates opposite each other?






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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2010, 17:18:17 »
Thanks folks. The impression I now have is that the various gates have changed over time. The second plan shows the Main Gate to be where the final Pembroke Gate was, although seeming to refer to an entrance to the Barracks rather than the Dockyard! All rather confusing to someone relying on only his personal memories :) I know there were very comprehensive bus services to/from Pembroke Gate (as witnessed by the bus stops signs in Dock Road), but can't remember if there were similar services from Main Gate (the big one on the main part of Dock Road :)) and Gillingham Gate.
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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2010, 15:42:47 »
The Alexandra Gate show on the plan went through the Dockyard wall directly opposite the bottom of Khyber Road. It was there until demolished to create the new access to the Observatory and the Jig Saw Nursery. The plan also shows where the original Pembroke Gate used to be ~ much further down the road towards the basins. The first plan also shows the East Gate that I have erronously referred to earlier as the Pier Approach Road Gate. The footpath from this gate went through a tunnel under the dockyard railway line.

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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2010, 14:58:53 »
If you discount Gun Wharf the only gates from public property I can find on a 1932 map are Gillingham Gate, East Gate, Dockyard Main Gate (not shown) and Pembroke Gate as seen on these two map samples. The Main Gate and Alexandra Gate in Dock Rd are entrances to Barracks.




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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2010, 12:27:01 »
Sorry to seem sceptical over this, but I've travelled down Dock road umpteen times over the years (including when I worked for the REs during the war, when we maintained some pumps behind the wall opposite, where the bus stop signs are) and I can't recall a gate in the dockyard wall.

This link shows some photos of what must be most of the wall, with the present St George's Centre where the bus is in the far distance. The memorial plaque to the RM Cadet Bus Disaster can be seen, but there is no sign of a gate.

http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1284.0
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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2010, 12:22:37 »
In my lifetime I have only seen Main Gate, Pembroke Gate, Barracks Gate and Gillingham Gate in use. Alexandra Gate was there but I never saw it open. The Pier Approach Road Gate is still there but bricked up.

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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2010, 11:35:23 »
Was Alexandra Gate built for one specific occasion, and then bricked up again?

The only mention of Alexandra Gate i can find in The Times, is when the public used it at the launch of the new Arethusa in 1934. Also the gate's shown on a 1950's map.

The Alexandra was launched at Chatham in 1875, but i don't know if the gate was specifically opened from that occasion ??? or afterwards ??? I'm sure Bromptonboy will know  :)

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Re: Dockyard Gates
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2010, 09:10:50 »
But am I right in thinking that only the Main Gate (including the wartime "booths" just outside), Pembroke Gate, and Gillingham Gate, gave 'outside' access to the Dockyard? Was Alexandra Gate built for one specific occasion, and then bricked up again?

For instance, there was a gate (unused while I lived there) between the Army and Naval Gun Wharves, that in turn led to the gate from there into the Dockyard, but I wouldn't count those as gates used for in and out musters.
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