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RobinT

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2016, 11:30:44 »
Hi
I live close to Delce Tower (it was never a fort, but termed a defensible guardhouse in military language) and with the miracle of modern pc apps I am able to construct a 3D model from the existing plans and OS maps as posted here.  I would be pleased to share these sketches with interested person and invite comment that would help me improve the model.

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2016, 11:28:05 »
Can I say I never realised there WAS a fort in that area.

To me it's one of those features you just travel pass without really noticing it. I've seen that brick structure on Delce Road lots of times, but my mind's never really questioned it until I saw this thread.

This is one of the things I love about local history like this - you could spend everyday of your whole life living in one particular area, and even then after all these years you STILL learn something new about your area you were completely unaware of.  :)

I'm 36 years old. I spent most of my life in and around Medway, and yet after all these years I'm still discovering things like this fort that I've been completely unaware of my entire life! :)

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« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2016, 20:50:40 »
Rochester-bred, I can confirm that there are extensive underground chambers in the area of the Delce gun tower. Many moons ago I worked for the Richard Watts Charities, St. Cathryn's hospital is built on part of the Napoleonic defences and, at the time I was employed by them, it was possible to acces the site from a flight of stairs (now covered by concrete slabs). It may well be that now it is not possible due to extensive refurbishments of St.  Cathryn's over the years, but they are there, I assure you.

Signals99, around 6 years ago when my mum was alive she got a letter saying they were going to let people have a tour of the shelter but it never came to pass, my mum lived at 97 Delce rd, the last bungalow by Onslow rd.

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2016, 15:26:35 »
Rochester-bred, I can confirm that there are extensive underground chambers in the area of the delce gun tower. Many moons ago I worked for the Richard Watts Charities, St. Cathryn's hospital is built on part of the Napoleonic defences and, at the time I was employed by them, it was possible to acces the site from a flight of stairs (now covered by concrete slabs). It may well be that now it is not possible due to extensive refurbishments of St.  Cathryn's over the years, but they are there, I assure you.

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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2016, 08:14:47 »
Delce was not really a fort, just a gun tower, part of the great defences across Medway. Would love to have a look inside as there are two entrances that can been accessed, one where the car sales is and one further along, a metal door in the wall. Inside, people used it during the war as an air raid shelter.

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2016, 10:55:26 »
There are no connecting tunnels apparently.

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« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2016, 10:45:12 »
I've been trying to work out where the covered way crossed Jackson's Field from the 1940s aerial photos.There's lots of distractions from the WW2 scars. Fort Pitt is easy to recognize though and not all of the ditch appears to be infilled.I can remember having a look in 1967 around the cleared area where the casemated barracks used to be. Did I read correctly, earlier in this thread, that a connecting tunnel between Pitt and Delce was turned into a sewer? I'll look back.

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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2016, 17:55:57 »
Many thanks Cliveh! That's the file and I've downloaded it from your link. .I've got it on my old PC, but the keyboard is not working on that one.

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2016, 14:52:16 »
Here you go Tower Will :)

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2016, 09:48:46 »
A very interesting subject.I thought i had a PDF file of the E.H. survey of the nearby Jackson's Field earthworks on this tablet but i've not found it yet.The file has aerial photos of the area taken in the 1940s, if my memory is correct, which also shows the infilling of Fort Pitt's ditches.I've Googled 'EH survey Jackson's Field,Chatham' but not found the PDF file to download.

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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2016, 06:09:22 »
Thank you for the pics  :) I've walked along Rose St. no end of times, and never noticed the Delce Place nameplate before.
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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2016, 05:40:14 »
There was a planning application submitted back in 2010/11 and due to objections being raised a site visit was made open to any interested parties. I missed this at the time but some of the hoardings have been left partly open and you can view inside behind the hoardings. In a month or so the weeds will be back and bushes and trees will again their leaves so if you want to know what's there I could pop over in the daytime this week and take a few photos.

Planning application.

http://www.medway.gov.uk/ws/sfdocs/sfdocs.asp?did=26c6981f5e349abe341cceb48b46f0f5
This is my first post after registering, after seeing this thread posted on Facebook. :-)

That link no longer works, but searching the council planning portal now, I can't find the relevant application.

I've lived in Rose Street, formerly Delce Place, according to a name plate on the wall, seen here:

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For over 45 years.
I'd been told by my nan when I was very young (51 now) that there had been an old fort opposite Fort Street on Delce Road, so it's fascinating to see all this info now. :-)

Regarding the mention of the tunnel to Fort Clarence being turned into a sewer, yes, the door in the retaining wall nearly opposite Rochester Avenue junction does lead to staggered sets of ladders which go deep down to a large sewer that runs from New Road near St Barts, across Jacksons at an angle, then to Delce Road and all the way to Maidstone Road.
I know this as I used to work in the highways and sewerage department at Rochester Council. :-)

Here's the door. Notice the concrete 'roof' sticking out of the grass bank above:

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2015, 12:03:38 »
From an 1864 War Department advertisment:

Fort Pitt

Plot 24.- Pasture land near Delce Lane and Plot 80, enclosure round Delce Tower, containing together 18A. 1R. 27P.

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2013, 06:55:32 »
Delce Fort

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Re: Fort Delce, Rochester
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2013, 07:59:18 »
In a month or so the weeds will be back and bushes and trees will again have their leaves so, if you want to know what's there, I could pop over in the daytime this week and take a few photos.

I'd like to see a few photos if you get time nutmagnet, I never realised how big the area is there. Planning Application makes for good read, thank you.

 

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